Battery just died - no warnings or any signs

[Fernata]

I've been reading all the battery threads to see if anyone else had this problem. I hate to be stranded and don't know many people where I moved to, but I'm tempted to try jumping it to take to get tested when my neighbor gets home.
Dealership can't even look at until Tuesday and have to have towed there.
My only concern is what the heck was burning/melting when it kept trying to start itself when I was in the house before I disconnected the battery?!

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[Dude]

I've been reading all the battery threads to see if anyone else had this problem. I hate to be stranded and don't know many people where I moved to, but I'm tempted to try jumping it to take to get tested when my neighbor gets home.
Dealership can't even look at until Tuesday and have to have towed there.
My only concern is what the heck was burning/melting when it kept trying to start itself when I was in the house before I disconnected the battery?!

For another owner will similar description as yours it was the starter

Search for that recent post if interested

 

[Fernata]

For another owner will similar description as yours it was the starter

Search for that recent post if interested

Thanks! And I also hate that auto start feature. I don't always remember to hit button. Annoying

 

[Sojourner]

While there are a ton of advantages in using the newer lithium-ion batteries that these vehicles have....

Some vehicles have Li-ion auto start batteries?

 

[petegee77]

Impossible to answer your question
We weren’t there so we cannot know what signs were present
If in your 2021 at 59k miles was the OE Battery that’s a long time for a battery to last. If it wasn’t the OE Battery, how old was the battery. With driving experience like what you experienced you now know batteries do not always give you a heads up and you cannot depend on the vehicle to tell you. You are now better prepared for future battery failures.

if nothing else, in the future keep track of your battery voltage in “real-time”and the easiest way to do that is with a $17 device that plugs into your 12V Port.

For sure your battery voltage has been dropping in the weeks prior to the failure you experienced.

https://a.co/d/hlEmkIu

Very smart idea. This spring I bought one for my 06 PT Cruiser. Works great and I paid under $6 for it from TEMU. Well worth it.

 

[Badlander1234]

Hi all,

2021 BS OB, with 59K miles. No issues with my car since I bought it brand new. Except for that stuck EVAP Solenoid.

But recently, I went to try to turn the car on, and it did not turn on. It was clicking or trying to turn on but it was struggling for its life.

I called my insurance roadside assistance, and the technician arrived and checked the battery life. It was dead, 0.0% charge. He says that doesn't seem right. The batteries life grade was at 7.7%. According to him, battery percentage should be at least 25% to try and jumpstart.

But those were the numbers we read. Only thing to do was actually just replace the battery. So I did. Paid $300. But the car was up and running immediately.

My question is, how come there were no signs of low voltage or anything really on the dashboard? This is concerning because what if I was going on a road trip or I was stuck in bad weather.

This is exactly what the latest recall is supposed to do. Did you have it done?

 

[jeff76]

For how long have you been using the battery ? You ever service it ?

Hi all,

2021 BS OB, with 59K miles. No issues with my car since I bought it brand new. Except for that stuck EVAP Solenoid.

But recently, I went to try to turn the car on, and it did not turn on. It was clicking or trying to turn on but it was struggling for its life.

I called my insurance roadside assistance, and the technician arrived and checked the battery life. It was dead, 0.0% charge. He says that doesn't seem right. The batteries life grade was at 7.7%. According to him, battery percentage should be at least 25% to try and jumpstart.

But those were the numbers we read. Only thing to do was actually just replace the battery. So I did. Paid $300. But the car was up and running immediately.

My question is, how come there were no signs of low voltage or anything really on the dashboard? This is concerning because what if I was going on a road trip or I was stuck in bad weather.

 

[NewStockyBalboa]

Hello everyone, I'm going to share some information here that might be related to the topic of battery failure. Still under investigation...

My BS BL has a little over 10.000 miles and has been in use for a year and a few months. Recently, the Auto-Start-Stop was failing and I suspected it was related to the recall and the reprogramming of the PCM. In addition, unfortunately, there was another possible cause that could be related to the start-stop failure (the car got stuck and moisture could have gotten into the connectors, which could also cause the engine to fail during start-stop). Anyway, after checking all the connectors and testing the car the issue remained and I came across a scenario related to the start-stop and I found it interesting:

1 - When stopping the car with only the Start-Stop on, the engine automatically turns off (so far so good), so at this point I did a test several times by staying stopped for as long as possible to see what would happen. The expectation is that the car's engine doesn't die at least. After several attempts, the same thing always happened: The car first reduces the air conditioning considerably in the first minute with the engine off, and turns it on automatically after about 2 minutes, as it should, either to resume charging the battery (a warning is displayed on the dashboard that the engine has been restarted for this purpose) or to keep the air cooling running.

Result: This test showed that the start-stop function is working properly, even after the recall.

2 - Also tested several times. When stopping the car with Auto-hold and Start-stop on, the engine turns off automatically (so far so good), it also reduces the air conditioning as it did before, but when the car is stopped for 2 minutes the engine dies, always, and the warning "Shift to P and restart Engine" appears.

Apparently it is related to the car's battery management programming, cause Ford analyst said so... They are trying now at the dealership to do some updates to see if this stops happening.

Any case similar?

Goodluck on this! Hopefully you get a resolution on this! Very interesting issue.

 

[NewStockyBalboa]

Hopefully you replaced your battery with an AGM type!

I didn't. I am not too aware of battery technologies for cars. Roadside assistance replaced it with a similar battery. Only difference I can tell was the branding and the CCA. Going from 770CA to 777CA.

Curious to see how this performs in the winter.

 

[NewStockyBalboa]

For how long have you been using the battery ? You ever service it ?

I wrote this in the beginning of this thread I created. But for 59K miles. I am the first owner, so 3 years.

 

[NewStockyBalboa]

Thanks! And I also hate that auto start feature. I don't always remember to hit button. Annoying

As soon as I turn my car on, first thing I press right after haha. Part of my routine at this point.

 

[NewStockyBalboa]

This is exactly what the latest recall is supposed to do. Did you have it done?

I never received any recall letters on this matter. I usually wait for Ford to send me the recall letter with remedy and then schedule my dealer appointment.

 

[Badlander1234]

I never received any recall letters on this matter. I usually wait for Ford to send me the recall letter with remedy and then schedule my dealer appointment.

It’s the PCM/BCM program update.

 

[Fernata]

We shall see what dealership says. Going in today. I have no patience and don't like being stranded, so I had it jumped and went to advanced auto. They had a hard time trying to test, so I said just put a battery in it.
Haven't had a problem with it since Saturday when I got battery.
The dealership said yesterday they have been getting "battery voltage" alerts from my car, a ton of them since Saturday. Not sure what that's about, but I am noting the time I start it and shut the button off since yesterday.
Kept the old battery so they can test it etc.

 

[Quashish]

Battery died today (Saturday) at 30k miles Ford service and parts department both close at 4pm. I called them at 3:50pm when battery left us stuck in a parking lot away from home and my jumper cables, and all staff were all gone. Can’t get anything done until Monday to get battery replaced under warranty. Excellent.

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