So it happened😢…..

[Bronco Blue]

Maybe I'm naive but I felt the interior quality is pretty good. That's coming from owning a Honda for years and driving in some Chevys and Dodges.

I mean it’s not bad, but my Fusion was better. It doesn’t look bad with the BS because it’s more of a rough and tough SUV, but the Escape shouldn’t have that.

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[PugDad]

Please hurry up and trade or sell it. That will solve your issue.

Just how many times are we going to beat this dead horse. There are many, many threads on this subject and it always ends up the same way.

There are those that shake their fists and bay at the moon about cheap Ford parts. Then the others that claim Ford is too cheap to fix it. Others go off about the safety hazards. The whole unsafe at any speed thing (thanks Ralph N), my car and family are going to burn up. But yet keep driving their BS.

You have 2 options, keep it and drive on. Or sell/trade it.

In other words Suck It Up Buttercup. Just don’t sit there and complain. DO SOMETHING OR DO NOTHING. Just stop beating this subject to death. It has been beat to death too many times on this forum.

Just how many times does Mark S have to explain the details of it?

Thank you …..now everyone please be seated.

 

[hellb0y]

I mean it’s not bad, but my Fusion was better. It doesn’t look bad with the BS because it’s more of a rough and tough SUV, but the Escape shouldn’t have that.

Yeah the interior is really crappy IMO, specially for the kind of money Ford asks for it…really I only bought it because of the subsided interest rate, was hard to pass 1.99% in a world of 8-10%!

Otherwise I would probably have bought the new Hyundai Tucson - wholes that thing is like a luxury car inside!

 

[PugDad]

Yeah the interior is really crappy IMO, specially for the kind of money Ford asks for it…really I only bought it because of the subsided interest rate, was hard to pass 1.99% in a world of 8-10%!

Otherwise I would probably have bought the new Hyundai Tucson - wholes that thing is like a luxury car inside!

Hey what part of Canada are you from?

 

[Bucko]

Please take the time to read my last response to you. Replacing the injectors will not resolve the design flaw which allows the collection of raw fuel and/or fumes near hot engine components. The change in part numbers offered to retail customers is not evidence that Ford is using different injectors. We don't know what's different between the "A" and "E" models. As far as we know it's nothing more than changing the letter. This is not unusual. Ford's supplier completes a production run for a given part, then waits for another order. Ford orders more of the same part, and the supplier iterates the number to identify a different production run on the same part. In other words, nothing changed except the part number.

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Where is your source for this assumption? I always heard (and I don't have a source on this) was to indicate a change/modification in a part.

It would be nice to put this to an end if anyone has evidence one way or another.

 

[Bronco Blue]

Yeah the interior is really crappy IMO, specially for the kind of money Ford asks for it…really I only bought it because of the subsided interest rate, was hard to pass 1.99% in a world of 8-10%!

Otherwise I would probably have bought the new Hyundai Tucson - wholes that thing is like a luxury car inside!

Yeah I originally was looking at the redesigned Sportage before the Kia dealer I went to low balled me for my trade in on my Fusion, knowing full well it was worth more than they were offering me and that they would sell it for probably $10,000 more than they offered. This was during the tail end of Covid in May of last year so resale values were high, including cars like the Fusion that are usually lower because of fleets. So after that, I went to my local Ford dealer in town that I got my Fusion serviced at and they offered me what I wanted for my Fusion, so I got my BS.

I like it as it’s got a more heavier and tighter steering feel than the Sportage did so I’m glad I got it, but yeah the plastics are really cheap. I drive with my windows down a lot and the front passenger seat belt has already started leaving a wear spot where it flaps in the wind on the plastic piece behind it. As you said, the quality should be better for what Ford asks for with the price of these though. Idk what happened to the quality between the generation of Ford products the Fusion was apart of to this new generation, but it’s diminished big time.

 

[Dude]

Now all we need are the complete Ford parts drawings for HX7Z9F593A, and for HX7Z9F593E and to talk to the Ford engineers responsible for the HX7Z9F593E part to know what changed and why. Ford designs or sources replacement parts all the time, sometimes to fix issues and sometimes for cost reasons.

I asked a Ford parts department person about the HX7Z9F593E part and what issues if any were corrected in the HX7Z9F593A part.

He did not know specifically and could only provide an assumption as stated in his statements which I quoted below. Remember his statements are just an assumption .. so please do not read anymore into that because it just another guess about the updated HX7Z9F593E part. And the portions in parentheses are my edits only for clarification.

“any time (Ford) retool/design a part the old part is put on stop sale & the replacement gets the updated part number”

“No way to know what was done (for the HX7Z9F593E part) . … I have never had luck (getting info) on updated parts (as Ford) does not disclose that info. I would assume it’s due to a bad batch of material not being up to par under stress or aged fatigue.”

That being said he did obtain a set of the HX7Z9F593E fuel injectors to install on his 1.5L Bronco Sport should that ever become necessary. ?

 

[Mark S.]

Where is your source for this assumption? I always heard (and I don't have a source on this) was to indicate a change/modification in a part.

I worked for a manufacturing company; that's the way it worked for that company. One of our customers was a branch of the military, and its representatives required we keep records to differentiate between production runs. That's how we did it.

It would be nice to put this to an end if anyone has evidence one way or another.

I don't think with will ever happen. There is no upside for Ford to publish this data. If it says it upgraded the part then everyone will be clambering for the upgraded parts. If it says it didn't upgrade the parts then everyone will assume it's lying.

 

[Its her Bronco]

Can you please share your source for this? From what I can see these parts are interchangeable; there is nothing to suggest one superseded another.

The last digit of the part number in this case is the suffix.
HX7Z9F593A was the old number so the "E" in the new number is the new suffix (HX7Z9F593E).
And this would be a be what is called a running change at the plant (typically, major changes happen at a model year change) . I have 25+ years of dealing with with automatic transmissions in a Ford plant so I have seen lots of running changes (what I cant tell you is if they exhausted all the "A" level parts before switching to the "E" level parts at the plant, have seen it go both ways depending on the reason for the change). I am no expert on engines but a can rebuild a 10 speed rear wheel drive transmission faster than you can do an oil change (in most cases, once it is out of the vehicle and this was not a challenge, lol).

 

[Bucko]

At this point, we have 3 possible answers, but no documented proof. I have always agreed with Mark's statements that are asked, show a source, which at this point, we do not have.

No worries, I'll assume a part I buy at Ford will be a quality fit and functional part.

 

[Badtothebone2]

****UPDATE!!****
Norma is back! She is definitely running better. Service department even filled my gas tank. She had less than half a tank when I dropped her off?

 

[Mark S.]

****UPDATE!!****
Norma is back! She is definitely running better. Service department even filled my gas tank. She had less than half a tank when I dropped her off?

Excellent! Can you share some details? Did they replace all injectors or just the one that was leaking? Is the replacement injector(s) different from the OEM injectors?

 

[Badtothebone2]

Yes they replaced all 3 injectors. I neglected to ask if they were the same part or different. I attached the invoice, someone may know based on the part number.

 

[Dude]

Makes sense to replace all 3 injectors since that is stated in Ford’s Customer Satisfaction Program 22N18:

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2023/MC-10233848-0001.pdf

“Provides a no-cost, one-time replacement (if needed) of all three high-pressure fuel injectors for 15 years of service or 150,000 miles from the warranty start date of the vehicle, whichever occurs first.”

Badtothebone2’s repair was done per 22N18 and the 3 HX7Z9F593E fuel injector part was installed for the repair.

 

[RSH]

Must be a typo.
The REF date in the Ford document is listed as December 19, 2023
https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2023/MC-10233848-0001.pdf

Good news that the Op's BS was repaired.

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