So it happened😢…..

[davidg4781]

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[Sleddog]

But no one else is having engine fires from cracked fuel injectors, just Ford as far as I know. There are several companies that make fuel injectors. Ford just picked one that was cheap because let’s be honest, they aren’t spending the money on anything that is better quality that won’t crack. Let me ask you this: Do you think this is recall is an adequate fix that gonna fix the issue?

For me, Ford should be doing a fix that prevents the cracking and the fuel leak instead of like, “oh, we know the leak, but we really don’t care. To help try prevent engine fires on our end to meet NHTSA protocol, let’s install a drain tube and download software that warns of a potential fire. Now your car can still probably catch on fire, the injectors can still crack resulting in fuel leakage, but it’s the least we’re doing and it’s gonna be as you, the owner, your problem now. Good luck!” That leaves a bad taste in my mouth that Ford would rather place a band aid on an issue instead of outright fixing it to prevent it from happening to begin with. Why do I as the consumer have to deal with making sure my car doesn’t leak fuel and catch fire because of a design flaw by the manufacturer? No where did I sign up for that. I’m only supposed to at least provide the usual maintenance, put gas in it, and take care of it so it lasts me a long time. Not worry that my car could potentially leak fuel and catch on fire. That’s bs.

I love my BS, but ever since this recall happened, I’ve been going back and forth if I wanna deal with the trouble of this issue. I don’t want to be traveling down the road and my car starts leaking fuel and then possibly catches on fire and I lose all my belongings, my car, and possibly me, my family, or my friends get hurt. And if it’s in my driveway, it could spread to my family’s cars and possibly the house since it’s a small driveway and I’m not parking my brand new car out on the street for someone to hit. Why should I deal with that because of Ford’s negligence, cheapness, and laziness. My opinion of Ford has gone down drastically.

Ford said it’s the fuel injectors that crack and leak. They said it. They said it was the fuel injectors. If it’s not then idk, do more investigating, but don’t let me play Russian roulette with my car that I use every day to go places. I don’t think a drain tube and a fire alarm program is a proper solution. It feels like a band aid. I don’t want a band aid. I want a permanent and proper fix so I don’t have to worry or think about it. From what you said earlier, it seems like you don’t think this recall is going to stop engine fires, depending on the severity of the leak, so why did Ford think this was a good fix? You should be fixing all not just a small number. That’s ridiculous.

Sorry for the long rant and I’m not trying to argue with you, so please don’t take it like that, but this whole thing just bothers me since I have major anxiety to begin with and ever since this happened, it’s not been good. I want to enjoy my car. I do love my car. It’s what I wanted, but the constant having to be on high alert for possible leaking fuel is ridiculous. Before I got the recall done, I was driving home from work one night on the interstate and I passed an old F-150 that was towing three cars that it shouldn’t have been towing and the way it was towing them was wrong, but I smelled burning. I immediately freaked out and thought it was me. Obviously it wasn’t it was that truck, but still, that’s what I’m left to deal with. That’s what all of us that have the 1.5 Dragon engine have to deal with. It’s not right. Obviously, Ford named this engine properly for what it’s capable of doing by naming it the Dragon, just saying.

Please hurry up and trade or sell it. That will solve your issue.

Just how many times are we going to beat this dead horse. There are many, many threads on this subject and it always ends up the same way.

There are those that shake their fists and bay at the moon about cheap Ford parts. Then the others that claim Ford is too cheap to fix it. Others go off about the safety hazards. The whole unsafe at any speed thing (thanks Ralph N), my car and family are going to burn up. But yet keep driving their BS.

You have 2 options, keep it and drive on. Or sell/trade it.

In other words Suck It Up Buttercup. Just don’t sit there and complain. DO SOMETHING OR DO NOTHING. Just stop beating this subject to death. It has been beat to death too many times on this forum.

Just how many times does Mark S have to explain the details of it?

 

[67L48]

[...] I keep asking those of you who believe Ford should simply replace the injectors for evidence [...], but no one has offered any. [...]

I believe I have the reason for this:

I feel Ford [...]

[...] I feel like they’d [...]

If we're going off of feelings, then evidence really isn't necessary. Words matter and when people speak from a place of emotion, then data are not really relevant.

 

[hellb0y]

Please hurry up and trade or sell it. That will solve your issue.

Just how many times are we going to beat this dead horse. There are many, many threads on this subject and it always ends up the same way.

There are those that shake their fists and bay at the moon about cheap Ford parts. Then the others that claim Ford is too cheap to fix it. Others go off about the safety hazards. The whole unsafe at any speed thing (thanks Ralph N), my car and family are going to burn up. But yet keep driving their BS.

You have 2 options, keep it and drive on. Or sell/trade it.

In other words Suck It Up Buttercup. Just don’t sit there and complain. DO SOMETHING OR DO NOTHING. Just stop beating this subject to death. It has been beat to death too many times on this forum.

Just how many times does Mark S have to explain the details of it?

Oh non stop…it’s quite annoying actually.

 

[Bronco Blue]

Please hurry up and trade or sell it. That will solve your issue.

Just how many times are we going to beat this dead horse. There are many, many threads on this subject and it always ends up the same way.

There are those that shake their fists and bay at the moon about cheap Ford parts. Then the others that claim Ford is too cheap to fix it. Others go off about the safety hazards. The whole unsafe at any speed thing (thanks Ralph N), my car and family are going to burn up. But yet keep driving their BS.

You have 2 options, keep it and drive on. Or sell/trade it.

In other words Suck It Up Buttercup. Just don’t sit there and complain. DO SOMETHING OR DO NOTHING. Just stop beating this subject to death. It has been beat to death too many times on this forum.

Just how many times does Mark S have to explain the details of it?

There was NO NEED to be an ass about it. People do have a right to be upset. SORRY that it inconveniences you SOOOOO MUCH! You don’t have to look or respond to threads that talk about this, you can simply just ignore them and go about your day, IT’S JUST THAT EASY! Same to the other dude too who agreed with you that it’s annoying! Ignore and move on! We have a right to be upset about it. We made an expensive purchase and we should expect to have it run correctly. So how about you take your own advice and SUCK IT UP BUTTERCUP and IGNORE!

 

[hellb0y]

There was NO NEED to be an ass about it. People do have a right to be upset. SORRY that it inconveniences you SOOOOO MUCH! You don’t have to look or respond to threads that talk about this, you can simply just ignore them and go about your day, IT’S JUST THAT EASY! Same to the other dude too who agreed with you that it’s annoying! Ignore and move on! We have a right to be upset about it. We made an expensive purchase and we should expect to have it run correctly. So how about you take your own advice and SUCK IT UP BUTTERCUP and IGNORE!

He wasn’t being an ass - just stating facts. Really came down to 2 options that he mentioned in his post - suck it up buttercup or trade in, that’s it.

 

[Bronco Blue]

He wasn’t being an ass - just stating facts. Really came down to 2 options that he mentioned in his post - suck it up buttercup or trade in, that’s it.

It’s the way he worded it, it could’ve been nicer I’m just saying. It came across as being an ass to me anyway. If he wasn’t being an ass then I apologize for getting on him. I don’t want to trade it in. As I’ve said I love my Bronco, I’m just disappointed. I want it fixed is all that’s all I’d like done. Someone shared on here that the injectors were replaced. Why can I have that done then instead of the drain tube crap? Idk, I’m just very frustrated and yeah I know it’s annoying to some people, but it’s annoying to me too that I feel like there could be more done than what was done. Oh well…maybe something will happen and they actually fix the problem who really knows for sure.

 

[Dude]

No need to suck it up or trade it in (at least not yet) … if hellb0y is correct about HX7Z9F593E, then …

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2023/MC-10233848-0001.pdf

“Provides a no-cost, one-time replacement (if needed) of all three high-pressure fuel injectors for 15 years of service or 150,000 miles from the warranty start date of the vehicle, whichever occurs first.”

 

[davidg4781]

I Someone shared on here that the injectors were replaced. Why can I have that done then instead of the drain tube crap?

I don't think I'm impacted by this recall but I've been kind of following it.

From what I remember with recalls, it goes like this...

1. A couple started leaking, they (Ford or government) keeps track of it.
2. They find out what the issue is
3. Once it gets to a certain percent, they have to start acting
   1. If it's an obvious defect with the part, they'll replace those parts
   2. If it's a bad batch, they'll recall the impacted VINs

Right now, I think Ford either can't find out if it's a bad batch or there's not enough defective ones to issue a full on recall for the part. Ford may have discovered that there was a design flaw which is why they're adding in that tube.

And I don't think Ford is being cheap. I imagine they would have insurance to cover things like this or the manufacture of the components has to cover most or all of it.

Either it didn't get to the major recall level or it's bad batch or two.

 

[Bronco Blue]

I don't think I'm impacted by this recall but I've been kind of following it.

From what I remember with recalls, it goes like this...

1. A couple started leaking, they (Ford or government) keeps track of it.
2. They find out what the issue is
3. Once it gets to a certain percent, they have to start acting
   1. If it's an obvious defect with the part, they'll replace those parts
   2. If it's a bad batch, they'll recall the impacted VINs

Right now, I think Ford either can't find out if it's a bad batch or there's not enough defective ones to issue a full on recall for the part. Ford may have discovered that there was a design flaw which is why they're adding in that tube.

And I don't think Ford is being cheap. I imagine they would have insurance to cover things like this or the manufacture of the components has to cover most or all of it.

Either it didn't get to the major recall level or it's bad batch or two.

Ok that makes sense. I just don’t want them to stop trying to figure out what the problem is if they’re still leaking. I was just worried that Ford was being cheap since they seemed to have cheapened out on other stuff like interior quality for example, which I don’t necessarily care about except when it comes to mechanical bits, I want stuff that’s durable and isn’t going to leave me stranded without a car anywhere since I go to a lot of places. I want this car to last me a long while, and I took the recall as Ford just doing this and moving on.

 

[Mark S.]

Someone shared on here that the injectors were replaced. Why can I have that done then instead of the drain tube crap?

Please take the time to read my last response to you. Replacing the injectors will not resolve the design flaw which allows the collection of raw fuel and/or fumes near hot engine components. The change in part numbers offered to retail customers is not evidence that Ford is using different injectors. We don't know what's different between the "A" and "E" models. As far as we know it's nothing more than changing the letter. This is not unusual. Ford's supplier completes a production run for a given part, then waits for another order. Ford orders more of the same part, and the supplier iterates the number to identify a different production run on the same part. In other words, nothing changed except the part number.

I just don’t want them to stop trying to figure out what the problem is if they’re still leaking.

I've mentioned this many times. You can be certain that both Ford and the NHTSA are watching this situation very carefully. If there were any indication whatsoever that a run of faulty parts were causing engine fires the NHTSA would require Ford to issue a "stop drive" order. The fact that it hasn't is the single-most relevant factor about this recall. It's the primary reason you should feel confident to continue driving and enjoying your car.

All that aside, even if you hadn't had the recall completed there's little danger to you or your family in driving the car. There have been zero reports of injury to vehicle occupants pursuant to this recall. There is no possibility I can see of explosion if a cracked injector results in an under-hood fire. The most likely scenario is you will notice smoke coming out from under your hood and you'll simply get out of the car and watch it burn. If you turn off the car quickly enough you will shut down the fuel pump, leaving only the small amount of fuel remaining in the fuel lines under the hood to burn. Regardless, you and all other vehicle occupants will have plenty of time to get out of the car.

 

[69cuda340s]

Easy solution for 3 cylinder injector leaks water pump leaks - trade in for Badlands Sport - win win...

 

[69cuda340s]

Suck it up butter cup and all that other back and forth goodness.... carry on ladies....

 

[davidg4781]

... they seemed to have cheapened out on other stuff like interior quality for example...

Maybe I'm naive but I felt the interior quality is pretty good. That's coming from owning a Honda for years and driving in some Chevys and Dodges.

 

[Jake10080Guy]

Easy solution for 3 cylinder injector leaks water pump leaks - trade in for Badlands Sport - win win...

The issue has been rectified already

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