Keyless Entry Keypad - 2025 - Alternate Locaiton

[Jmuns]

If it was me I'd stick it on the door probably, but the next place would be as you mentioned on the inside of the fuel door. I don't see any other place as a nice option to be honest. I use mine everyday so I'd want it super easy to access. Hiding it somewhere else would defeat it's purpose IMO.

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[Stircrazy]

^^This^^

Very much...this...

that doesn't allow you to hide your keys in the car if you are doing water sports, or let the kids or wife run out to the car to get something they forgot with out getting the keys from you. the built in key pad is a huge convenience, but you will never realize that until you have one and actually use it to do things.

 

[Bill G]

Kind of like the side of the roof rail over the driver’s door it it would fit there. Same orientation as on the door but “black-on-black” would make it a little less obtrusive.

 

[elvisimprsntr]

I bought a wireless stick on keypad for my '25.

In case FORScan does not support programming, is the OBDLink EX compatible with FDRS?

 

[cprcubed]

Maybe I'm out-to-lunch, but the OBDLink EX (or other versions like the MX+, etc) is only the interface between the vehicles systems and the app you are using (FORScan/FORScan Lite, TorquePro, etc). Cheers!

 

[coopny]

I bought a wireless stick on keypad for my '25.

In case FORScan does not support programming, is the OBDLink EX compatible with FDRS?

There are reports of using an OBDLink MX being accepted by FDRS. I don't know if Ford considers this a supported configuration or not, if Ford just treats the OBDII reader as a COM port and it supports both regular OBD functions and HS-CAN bus (as the OBDLink EX and MX do) then it may be fine. If you already have an EX, I would consider *trying* it with FDRS (if you have it already).

It's a semi-risky operation, so I'm not sure I would attempt it in FDRS without a known working adapter version. Definitely back up all your modules in FORScan to your PC first, that way you can flash them back if an operation in FDRS goes wrong (even then you could have a bad flash that fries something to be unflashable, but generally manufacturers try to design fault tolerance to reduce bad parts/cost...)

 

[jkernitzki]

Maybe I'm out-to-lunch, but the OBDLink EX (or other versions like the MX+, etc) is only the interface between the vehicles systems and the app you are using (FORScan/FORScan Lite, TorquePro, etc). Cheers!

Correct.

The ODBII dongle of whatever brand is the physical connection, FORScan is the software that talks to the different modules. If a particular value can’t be altered with FORScan, then (a) its likely a value not applicable to the BS or only available through FDRS, and (b) changing to a different dongle won’t alter that.

The ODBLink EX is as plug and play as it gets, and auto-switches between HS CAN and MS CAN as needed. Some dongles have a physical switch that has to be flipped depending on the module being accessed.

 

[SteveI]

I just ended up putting it in the fuel door. The exterior snap-on bracket that surrounds the keypad makes the unit too large to fit and still properly latch (needs to be a small distance from the circle surrounding the peg because there is a larger piece that mates on the vehicle side), but because it's out of sight and semi-protected from the weather, I don't think it will matter.

 

[elvisimprsntr]

There are reports of using an OBDLink MX being accepted by FDRS. I don't know if Ford considers this a supported configuration or not, if Ford just treats the OBDII reader as a COM port and it supports both regular OBD functions and HS-CAN bus (as the OBDLink EX and MX do) then it may be fine. If you already have an EX, I would consider *trying* it with FDRS (if you have it already).

It's a semi-risky operation, so I'm not sure I would attempt it in FDRS without a known working adapter version. Definitely back up all your modules in FORScan to your PC first, that way you can flash them back if an operation in FDRS goes wrong (even then you could have a bad flash that fries something to be unflashable, but generally manufacturers try to design fault tolerance to reduce bad parts/cost...)

I'll try FORScan. I'm not paying $1600 for a Ford VCM3.

The VNCI VCM3 says it is compatible with FDRS.

https://www.amazon.com/Generic-Automotive-Diagnostic-Scanner-Programming/dp/B0D2VXJDRL

Anyone have any suggestions?

 

[elvisimprsntr]

Confirmed FDRS does not provide a drop down selection for ODBLink EX, but it does for the Mongoose-Plus.

I bought the Mongoose-Plus and a 2 day FDRS license to program the stick on RF keypad. Took less thank 5 minutes to program with FDRS. I noticed FDRS leaves an evidence trail in the vehicle every time you connect, including the email you used to create a Ford Service account to use FDRS and what routines you ran. FORScan only leaves a connection date and time stamp and looks similar to dealer pre delivery activity.

I ended up putting it on the rear door b-pillar vs the traditional location above the door handle. The drivers door b-pillar was not wide enough.

Also noticed the '25 BS new MPC engine is listed as a "Dragon B." I assume "Dragon" or "Dragon A" is the prior generation engine. I wonder if Ford is not promoting the all new MPC engine, as it might be considered an admission the older Dragon engines have problems. Based on everything I've read, my build does not include the GPF, which was introduced Job 3, June 2025.

 

[SteveI]

I bought the Mongoose-Plus and a 2 day FDRS license to program the stick on RF keypad.

It looks like the dealer cost to program the keypad is $56. What other benefits do you find to having the hardware / software yourself for the cost?

 

[elvisimprsntr]

It looks like the dealer cost to program the keypad is $56. What other benefits do you find to having the hardware / software yourself for the cost?

Ability to reprogram my other Ford vehicles and not have to put up with the Dealer.

 

[Lisa Sue]

Stevel, Although there are no options for a keyless entry pad integrated in the pillar on the Ford Accessories site, my dealership told me it would work in my 2025 BS OBX (Sasquatch). Although I was skeptical, I had them order it and paid with points. They had it for almost an entire day and decided that they needed both fobs to program it. It still did not work so they messaged Ford. They indicated that the first response was not clear so they had to ask them again. Bottom line, it still doesn't work but it looks very nice. It is going to be removed next week and replaced with my original pillar. I considered the stick-on but since the battery can't be accessed, it will no longer work when the battery dies. So it is a $150 disposable chincy stick-on wireless keypad. Naa, not getting it.

 

[Schuelady]

That’s odd that Ford had no way to tell your dealership how to make it work

When the option was discontinued it was made permanently gone apparently

Since she posted this, unfortunately she found out the integrated one is not compatible with the 2025s, this came straight from Ford!

 

[ShowBlacks]

All 2025’s have Ford Intelligent Access (keyless entry), so a keypad is redundant. With the fob in your pocket or purse you just touch the inside of either front door handle and it unlocks. Lock by touching the top of either door handle. The tailgate and rear window unlock by just pressing the button.

The point of the keypad is so you don't have to have the fob on you to open the door.

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