Falken introduces the NEW A/T4W

[Bluebaru]

The new A/T4W will be phased in as the 3W is phased out. They look a little heavier to me, (check the tire specs) https://www.falkentire.com/wildpeak/at4w

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[Dude]

Here’s the data for 3 tires for comparison. Confirm all numbers are accurate before using this data. Links to the Specs are provided.

Edited: as stated by Discount Tire in Post #15 ‘Falken Wildpeak A/T4W is an improvement from its predecessor (Wildpeak AT3w), although Wildpeak A/T4W is 7lbs heavier, Wildpeak A/T4W is a more durable tire for off road and its UTQGL has improved from 600AB (I think Discount Tire meant 600BA) (Wildpeak AT3w) to 660AA. It's newer technologies equate to better snow traction and longer life.’

Falken Wildpeak AT3w OEM (Bronco Sport optional tire)
Where made: Thailand or Japan or Buffalo
Item number OEM part# 59000690 (for Ford)
Tire size 235/65R17
Load ID SL
Ply rating --
Service desc. 104H
Approved rim width (in) 6.5 - 8.5
Measuring rim (in) 7
Overall diameter (in) 29.1
Overall width (in) 9.6?
Revs per mile
Tread depth (/32) 13?
Tire weight (lbs) 31
Max Load Single / Dual (Ibs) 1984
Max Pressure (psi cold) 50?
UTQG: 600 B A
Warranty 5 Years / 55,000 Miles
Spec Link: OEM part# 59000690
https://www.tires-easy.com/235-65-17/falken-tires/wildpeak-a-t3w/tirecode/59000690

https://www.falkentire.com/wildpeak/at3w#size-list

WILDPEAK A/T4W
Item number 28841790
Tire size 235/65R17
Load ID SL
Ply rating --
Service desc. 104H
Approved rim width (in) 6.5 - 8.5
Measuring rim (in) 7
Overall diameter (in) 29.1
Overall width (in) 9.4
Revs per mile 731
Tread depth (/32) 13
Tire weight (lbs) 38.2
Max Load Single / Dual (Ibs) 1984
Max Pressure (psi cold) 51
UTQG: 660 A A (Edited)
Warranty “up to 65,000 Miles”
Spec Link:
https://www.falkentire.com/wildpeak/at4w

WILDPEAK A/T4W
Item number 28844768
Tire size 245/65R17
Load ID XL
Ply rating --
Service desc. 111T
Approved rim width (in) 7.0 - 8.5
Measuring rim (in) 7
Overall diameter (in) 29.5
Overall width (in) 9.8
Revs per mile 719
Tread depth (/32) 13
Tire weight (lbs) 41.9
Max Load Single / Dual (Ibs) 2403
Max Pressure (psi cold) 50
UTQG: 660 A B (Edited)
Warranty “up to 65,000 Miles”
Spec Link:
https://www.falkentire.com/wildpeak/at4w

 

[Bluebaru]

Here’s the data for 3 tires for comparison. Confirm all numbers are accurate before using this data. Links to the Specs are provided.

Falken Wildpeak AT3w OEM (Bronco Sport optional tire)
Where made: Thailand or Japan or Buffalo
Item number OEM part# 59000690 (for Ford)
Tire size 235/65R17
Load ID SL
Ply rating --
Service desc. 104H
Approved rim width (in) 6.5 - 8.5
Measuring rim (in) 7
Overall diameter (in) 29.1
Overall width (in) 9.6?
Revs per mile
Tread depth (/32) 13?
Tire weight (lbs) 31
Max Load Single / Dual (Ibs) 1984
Max Pressure (psi cold) 50?
UTQG: 600 B A
Warranty 5 Years / 55,000 Miles
Spec Link: OEM part# 59000690
https://www.tires-easy.com/235-65-17/falken-tires/wildpeak-a-t3w/tirecode/59000690

https://www.falkentire.com/wildpeak/at3w#size-list

WILDPEAK A/T4W
Item number 28841790
Tire size 235/65R17
Load ID SL
Ply rating --
Service desc. 104H
Approved rim width (in) 6.5 - 8.5
Measuring rim (in) 7
Overall diameter (in) 29.1
Overall width (in) 9.4
Revs per mile 731
Tread depth (/32) 13
Tire weight (lbs) 38.2
Max Load Single / Dual (Ibs) 1984
Max Pressure (psi cold) 51
UTQG: 600 A A
Warranty “up to 65,000 Miles”
Spec Link:
https://www.falkentire.com/wildpeak/at4w

WILDPEAK A/T4W
Item number 28844768
Tire size 245/65R17
Load ID XL
Ply rating --
Service desc. 111T
Approved rim width (in) 7.0 - 8.5
Measuring rim (in) 7
Overall diameter (in) 29.5
Overall width (in) 9.8
Revs per mile 719
Tread depth (/32) 13
Tire weight (lbs) 41.9
Max Load Single / Dual (Ibs) 2403
Max Pressure (psi cold) 50
UTQG: 600 A B
Warranty “up to 65,000 Miles”
Spec Link:
https://www.falkentire.com/wildpeak/at4w

My thoughts and corrections.

The A/T3W, 235/65/17, max pressure is not 51lbs, that would imply it's an XL load rated tire and it's not.

The A/T4W, 235/65/17, weight seems to be off or it's an XL load rated tire, contrary to the spec sheet, though it's possible that it's heavier because it's no longer a compromised OEM fitment!
I believe the 245/65/17, A/T4W, gained a couple of pounds vs the 3W, as it now weighs, 41.9lbs or the spec sheet is off.

I wonder when we might be able to actually get any of them? @Discount Tire or @Falken QA

 

[Discount Tire]

@Bluebaru the expected release date is end of March, first of April if all goes to plan.

 

[Escape2Bronco]

I wonder if the 235/65-17 Goodyear will be the replacement then for the AT3w?

 

[Escape2Bronco]

I have to say, I'm a pretty big fan of the 235/65-17 AT3w

 

[Dude]

My thoughts and corrections.

The A/T3W, 235/65/17, max pressure is not 51lbs, that would imply it's an XL load rated tire and it's not.

The A/T4W, 235/65/17, weight seems to be off or it's an XL load rated tire, contrary to the spec sheet, though it's possible that it's heavier because it's no longer a compromised OEM fitment!

Yes I thought there were some typos both in the A/T3W, 235/65/17 OEM part# 59000690 data I posted as well as in Falkens specification info for A/T4W, 235/65/17.

Btw… For the A/T3W, 235/65/17 OEM part# 59000690 I was not able to find the link to Falkens specifications for the OEM part# 59000690 so I posted data from “tires-easy” per the link I posted. And I posted the warning about … “Confirm all numbers are accurate before using this data. Links to the Specs are provided.”

 

[wessermgm]

I wonder if the 235/65-17 Goodyear will be the replacement then for the AT3w?

That's how it is looking.

 

[Glamdring70]

If those specs are accurate, then it seems like a loss of many advantages that the tire offers as an all-purpose fit. I like the OEM in-betweeners. I was looking forward to being able to buy the same tires on the Sport again. My last car had unusual size so there wasn't a lot of options.

 

[DirtyLuke]

@Bluebaru the expected release date is end of March, first of April if all goes to plan.

Damn. I'm due for a whole new set after only 32000 miles. I really liked the balance of onroad manners and offroad chops of the at3w that I don't mind the low mileage. I could probably squeeze another month out of them, but not 2+. They'll probably be racing slicks by April.

 

[Babybronc21]

Damn. I'm due for a whole new set after only 32000 miles. I really liked the balance of onroad manners and offroad chops of the at3w that I don't mind the low mileage. I could probably squeeze another month out of them, but not 2+. They'll probably be racing slicks by April.

Same! I’m due but torn - can’t imagine making it to April but interested in more details as they come out.

 

[Discount Tire]

Rest assured that when the tires are physically available for order, we will chime in on the forum.

 

[Jmuns]

Damn. I'm due for a whole new set after only 32000 miles. I really liked the balance of onroad manners and offroad chops of the at3w that I don't mind the low mileage. I could probably squeeze another month out of them, but not 2+. They'll probably be racing slicks by April.

Keep an eye out for some takeoffs that people post or call a local tire shop and see what they have for some used tires. You could get some decent tires for cheap to float you until the the AT4 comes out if that's what you are set on.

 

[Dude]

@Discount Tire what are your thoughts on these two tires? For example, are these two effectively equivalent? Any other opinions?

1. WILDPEAK A/T4W Item number 28841790 Tire size 235/65R17, Warranty “up to 65,000 Miles”

2. Wildpeak AT3w OEM (Bronco Sport optional tire) Item number OEM part# 59000690 (for Ford) Tire size 235/65R17, Warranty 5 Years / 55,000 Miles

 

[Discount Tire]

@Dude the Falken Wildpeak A/T4W is an improvement from its predecessor, although it is 7lbs heavier, it is a more durable tire for off road and its UTQGL has improved from 600AB to 660AA. It's newer technologies equate to better snow traction and longer life.

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