So it happened😢…..

[rocks]

But no one else is having engine fires from cracked fuel injectors, just Ford as far as I know. There are several companies that make fuel injectors. Ford just picked one that was cheap because let’s be honest, they aren’t spending the money on anything that is better quality that won’t crack. Let me ask you this: Do you think this is recall is an adequate fix that gonna fix the issue?

For me, Ford should be doing a fix that prevents the cracking and the fuel leak instead of like, “oh, we know the leak, but we really don’t care. To help try prevent engine fires on our end to meet NHTSA protocol, let’s install a drain tube and download software that warns of a potential fire. Now your car can still probably catch on fire, the injectors can still crack resulting in fuel leakage, but it’s the least we’re doing and it’s gonna be as you, the owner, your problem now. Good luck!” That leaves a bad taste in my mouth that Ford would rather place a band aid on an issue instead of outright fixing it to prevent it from happening to begin with. Why do I as the consumer have to deal with making sure my car doesn’t leak fuel and catch fire because of a design flaw by the manufacturer? No where did I sign up for that. I’m only supposed to at least provide the usual maintenance, put gas in it, and take care of it so it lasts me a long time. Not worry that my car could potentially leak fuel and catch on fire. That’s bs.

I love my BS, but ever since this recall happened, I’ve been going back and forth if I wanna deal with the trouble of this issue. I don’t want to be traveling down the road and my car starts leaking fuel and then possibly catches on fire and I lose all my belongings, my car, and possibly me, my family, or my friends get hurt. And if it’s in my driveway, it could spread to my family’s cars and possibly the house since it’s a small driveway and I’m not parking my brand new car out on the street for someone to hit. Why should I deal with that because of Ford’s negligence, cheapness, and laziness. My opinion of Ford has gone down drastically.

Ford said it’s the fuel injectors that crack and leak. They said it. They said it was the fuel injectors. If it’s not then idk, do more investigating, but don’t let me play Russian roulette with my car that I use every day to go places. I don’t think a drain tube and a fire alarm program is a proper solution. It feels like a band aid. I don’t want a band aid. I want a permanent and proper fix so I don’t have to worry or think about it. From what you said earlier, it seems like you don’t think this recall is going to stop engine fires, depending on the severity of the leak, so why did Ford think this was a good fix? You should be fixing all not just a small number. That’s ridiculous.

Sorry for the long rant and I’m not trying to argue with you, so please don’t take it like that, but this whole thing just bothers me since I have major anxiety to begin with and ever since this happened, it’s not been good. I want to enjoy my car. I do love my car. It’s what I wanted, but the constant having to be on high alert for possible leaking fuel is ridiculous. Before I got the recall done, I was driving home from work one night on the interstate and I passed an old F-150 that was towing three cars that it shouldn’t have been towing and the way it was towing them was wrong, but I smelled burning. I immediately freaked out and thought it was me. Obviously it wasn’t it was that truck, but still, that’s what I’m left to deal with. That’s what all of us that have the 1.5 Dragon engine have to deal with. It’s not right. Obviously, Ford named this engine properly for what it’s capable of doing by naming it the Dragon, just saying.

So less chance of a fire is good but I don't want to get stuck somewhere on a trip either.

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[Dude]

Can you please share your source for this? From what I can see these parts are interchangeable; there is nothing to suggest one superseded another.

This does show the A part is replaced by the E part. Can’t tell if the E part is redesigned or from a different manufacturer.

 

[Mark S.]

This does show the A part is replaced by the E part. Can’t tell if the E part is redesigned or from a different manufacturer.

Please share a link to the site instead of a screenshot.

 

[Mark S.]

This does show the A part is replaced by the E part. Can’t tell if the E part is redesigned or from a different manufacturer.

Nevermind, I found what I was looking for. It does appear that "A" model injectors are no longer available, and customers are redirected to the page for the "E" model. There is no data indicating the reason for the change. Retail parts available direct to consumers often carry different part numbers than OEM, so these may be completely different from those installed at the factory.

Everything appears to be identical between the "A" and "E" versions except the part number, including the price, which indicates to me no change in quality. I do not find this to be compelling evidence that the parts installed at the factory were faulty.

 

[Dude]

Please share a link to the site instead of a screenshot.

I simply googled the A part number (also googled the E part number). Every Ford parts site I looked at shows the A part was replaced by the E part.

(Google HX7Z9F593A)

 

[Dude]

Now all we need are the complete Ford parts drawings for HX7Z9F593A, and for HX7Z9F593E and to talk to the Ford engineers responsible for the HX7Z9F593E part to know what changed and why. Ford designs or sources replacement parts all the time, sometimes to fix issues and sometimes for cost reasons.

 

[hellb0y]

Now all we need are the complete Ford parts drawings for HX7Z9F593A, and for HX7Z9F593E and to talk to the Ford engineers responsible for the HX7Z9F593E part to know what changed and why. Ford designs or sources replacement parts all the time, sometimes to fix issues and sometimes for cost reasons.

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???????

It’s a diff revision - anyone with a 2021/2022 BS should get the updated part to avoid future issues.

 

[hellb0y]

Please share a link to the site instead of a screenshot.

You are highly suspicious about this eh! This is in the Ford’s OEM catalog - so any dealer will have this info

 

[Mark S.]

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???????

It’s a diff revision - anyone with a 2021/2022 BS should get the updated part.

There's nothing stopping you from purchasing and installing them if you believe it's necessary. Personally, I'll trust Ford's engineers.

 

[Dude]

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???????

It’s a diff revision - anyone with a 2021/2022 BS should get the updated part to avoid future issues.

There’s no question it’s a different revision and the old part cannot be purchased now so anyone buying needs to get the E part number or later revision if that happens.

I used to design for a major auto manufacturer and I’ve designed and redesigned many parts for many reasons including cost. All I said is I would like to know what the E part design was for.

And I have no skin in the 1.5L game as I don’t own one. Cheers!

 

[Dude]

Everything appears to be identical between the "A" and "E" versions except the part number, including the price, which indicates to me no change in quality. I do not find this to be compelling evidence that the parts installed at the factory were faulty.

I agree with your last sentence because there is no way to know what changed from info I found online but I don’t agree with your first sentence .. I carefully looked at both parts on several
sources of information and I cannot tell what changed and no way to know about quality based solely on cost. All we know is the E part replaces the A part and looks like apparently the A part cannot be purchased. Not much else is known.

 

[Dude]

Of course that E part is a smoking gun in the 1.5L injector saga.

 

[hellb0y]

Of course that E part is a smoking gun in the 1.5L injector saga.

*we hope*…

 

[Dude]

*we hope*…

You are right about the “hope”, might take years to know

 

[rocks]

You are right about the “hope”, might take years to know

Reminds me of BMW's high pressure fuel pump issue back in '08 or so that took years to fix.

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