Falken introduces the NEW A/T4W

[Mark S.]

I wonder what Ford is going to start using for the optional AT tires now, something tells me they're not going to use the new AT4W with that added weight.

Not unless testing reveals no significant impact on performance and fuel economy. If Falken was somehow able to design a heavier tire that DOESN'T impact performance and fuel economy then they have a gold mine.

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[Dude]

New Falken WildPeak A/T4W Detailed Comparison To A/T3W and A/T Trail - Which Tire Is Best?

https://www.torquenews.com/1083/new-wildpeak-at4w-detailed-comparison-at3w-and-trail-which-tire-best

Falken WildPeak A/T3W Tire Long-Term Test - What Makes These Tires So Popular?

https://www.torquenews.com/1083/falken-wildpeak-at3w-tire-long-term-test-what-makes-these-tires-so-popular

 

[Summit]

It will be great to hear some reviews after someone has tried these on the BS.
We have been very happy with the AT Trails.

 

[Jmuns]

I’ve got 43k miles on my Toyo AT3’s so I will be due about the time these are finally released. I’ll probably put a set on when they come out in a couple months to try them out.

 

[Mark S.]

New Falken WildPeak A/T4W Detailed Comparison To A/T3W and A/T Trail - Which Tire Is Best?

https://www.torquenews.com/1083/new-wildpeak-at4w-detailed-comparison-at3w-and-trail-which-tire-best

Falken WildPeak A/T3W Tire Long-Term Test - What Makes These Tires So Popular?

https://www.torquenews.com/1083/falken-wildpeak-at3w-tire-long-term-test-what-makes-these-tires-so-popular

Note that the AT3/W review is based on 900 miles of driving between two different vehicles (assuming I understood the "Fast Fact" section). I would not classify this as a "long-term" test.

Note also the comparison article makes no mention of the new tire's weight gain and its possible impact on performance (acceleration & fuel economy).

 

[Discount Tire]

@Bamsi while we are looking forward to actual test results, the expectation would be better wet traction as well as snow traction in the next generation Wildpeak.

 

[Dude]

Couple pics of the new Falken WildPeak A/T4W tires in 245/65R17, apparently available now (Discount Tire, maybe other places):

 

[Cyriously]

Just picked up my BSBL with the with the 4s. Nice looking, only got them a couple hours ago!!

 

[Mark S.]

Just picked up my BSBL with the with the 4s. Nice looking, only got them a couple hours ago!!

Please update us with a report on performance (acceleration/fuel economy), ride quality, and handling when you get a chance.

 

[Babybronc21]

EDITING….. oh Shit I can’t do it and really want the 245s .. sigh. Im so conflicted so please talk me in or out of the details below.

Resurfacing this thread. It’s go time. Currently running the AT3s at 235/65. Was hoping to go AT4 at 245 BUT the extra 10.8 lbs per tire is too much. Could I do it… sure bc I dont care about the loss of mpg, BUt I do care about stopping power and added stress on OEM components. Plus given the already low load, that 10.8 pds equates to like an added 172 lbs. Thats alot!

So how important is that 245 to me really?? Meh. Running a 235 in the AT4 is 7.1 lbs more and while not bigger; the design of the AT4 is bulkier already in sidewall looks and takes me down to 113 pounds of total overall GV added load.

So justifying my cause… buy the At4 but keep with 235 OEM size over the 245 means…

Saves initial $$
saves 3.7 lb weight per wheel
Saves overall GV load hit
Runs OEM size/keeping Ford happy with my 10 yr/100 wty
Allows for 60lbs of upgrades (roof rack, lights, etc)
Saves wear on OEM parts
Better braking power

if this ride were anything more than a 2.0 and Ford parts be a bit more reliable… I wouldve jumped at 245s but after researching, just cant and think the AT4s are an improved design over the AT3s.

Now, to make the purchase call. This decision has not been an easy one.

 

[Bluebaru]

EDITING….. oh Shit I can’t do it and really want the 245s .. sigh. Im so conflicted so please talk me in or out of the details below.

Resurfacing this thread. It’s go time. Currently running the AT3s at 235/65. Was hoping to go AT4 at 245 BUT the extra 10.8 lbs per tire is too much. Could I do it… sure bc I dont care about the loss of mpg, BUt I do care about stopping power and added stress on OEM components. Plus given the already low load, that 10.8 pds equates to like an added 172 lbs. Thats alot!

So how important is that 245 to me really?? Meh. Running a 235 in the AT4 is 7.1 lbs more and while not bigger; the design of the AT4 is bulkier already in sidewall looks and takes me down to 113 pounds of total overall GV added load.

So justifying my cause… buy the At4 but keep with 235 OEM size over the 245 means…

Saves initial $$
saves 3.7 lb weight per wheel
Saves overall GV load hit
Runs OEM size/keeping Ford happy with my 10 yr/100 wty
Allows for 60lbs of upgrades (roof rack, lights, etc)
Saves wear on OEM parts
Better braking power

if this ride were anything more than a 2.0 and Ford parts be a bit more reliable… I wouldve jumped at 245s but after researching, just cant and think the AT4s are an improved design over the AT3s.

Now, to make the purchase call. This decision has not been an easy one.

I will make a few assumptions. Deep down, you want 245/65's, you want a Rugged/Rugged looking tire, with a good reputation but not something above average weight.

Why haven't you seriously considered the Toyo Open Country AT3? It has an XL load rating, like the Falken AT4w and weigh 34lbs.

I will also point out tire weight does not affect how much load you can carry, as tires are un-sprung weight but both weight and diameter do affect acceleration and stopping distance. I personally chose the, 245/65/17, Mickey Thompson Baja Boss A/T's, at 39lbs, as my first set of tires and Nokian Outpost nAT's on lighter wheels, as my second, to try over the winter, and reduced the combined weight by 13.5lbs and see almost no difference, in gas mileage. Personally, I like the Mickeys better, as they are quieter and the ride is better than the 245/70/16 nAT's

 

[Babybronc21]

… I personally chose the Mickey Thompson Baja Boss A/T's, at 39lbs, as my first set of tires and Nokian Outpost nAT's on lighter wheels, as my second, to try over the winter, and reduced the combined weight by 13.5lbs and see almost no difference, in gas mileage. Personally, I like the Mickeys better, as they are quieter and the ride is better.

My 2nd choice are the MT BB for sure! I like that they’re also made is US. That said, what size Mickeys are you running. Yes Id like something agressive and briefly looked at Toyo’s and Nitto RG.

I could care less about up front costs or gas mileage but do have concerns about wear/tear on OEM components. Just need to make an informed decision without getting lost in the details… which I seem to be lol

 

[Babybronc21]

Update on Falken Wildpeak AT4. Only “certain sizes” are 3ply. Basically if it doesn’t say Duraspec or HD on the sidewall then it’s likely still 2ply.

I noted a pdf spec sheet on their website and emailed to confirm.

sharing in case others are like me in that if Im going to be adding that much weight the sidewalls best be 3 ply. Disappointed.

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