Bronco ForScan Thread

[Mark S.]

Well, the driving modes are not all hardware related. For example, per Ford Mud N Ruts:

• This mode enhances vehicle performance to traverse muddy, rutted or uneven terrains.
• Lower gears hold longer in mud/ruts mode to maintain momentum in soft conditions.
• Mud/ruts mode engages the four-wheel drive lock which you can switch off using the drive mode controller.
• Mud/ruts mode optimizes braking for off-road conditions, allowing quick path corrections and minimized stopping distance when on deformable surfaces. The engine sound enhances when in mud/ruts mode.

Clearly the locking hardware isnt there, but the pathing logic probably is. Per the maverick forum, they were succusseful in noting that AWD performed differently in each added mode. All in the sake of 'why not' of course, its probably not much more useful than normal mode even IF it's able to be enabled, but it doesnt hurt to try it out

Additionally, per Ford Rock Crawl has plenty of non-hardware changes (not that I ever intend to rock crawl in an outer banks!)

• For off-road driving. For optimum rock-climbing ability. Rock crawl mode engages the four-wheel drive lock.
• Rock crawl mode optimizes the vehicle systems to provide maximum traction and slow speed performance. Lower gears hold longer in rock crawl mode to minimize shifting when traversing rocks and obstacles.
• The accelerator pedal dampens to improve throttle control and minimize speed change over rough terrain. The steering optimizes for less effort with reduced kick-back.
• Rock crawl mode optimizes braking for off-road conditions, allowing quick path corrections and minimized stopping distance when on deformable surfaces. The engine sound enhances when in rock crawl mode.

You can minimize shifting and keep the transmission in lower gears by pressing the L button on the shift knob. Other than that, how would you know if the computer is actually making changes to braking and throttle action? It's pretty easy to tell if the PTU or rear diff are locked--you can hear the clutches. These are the components that "optimize" the vehicle for maximum traction, not the torque vectoring feature that forces power from spinning wheels to stationary wheels. Torque vectoring operates whether you have a G.O.A.T. mode engaged or not.

I just don't see how without some pretty sophisticated testing you would know if brake or throttle function has changed, or if it is how it would help in an off-road situation.

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[Trist0n]

You can minimize shifting and keep the transmission in lower gears by pressing the L button on the shift knob. Other than that, how would you know if the computer is actually making changes to braking and throttle action? It's pretty easy to tell if the PTU or rear diff are locked--you can hear the clutches. These are the components that "optimize" the vehicle for maximum traction, not the torque vectoring feature that forces power from spinning wheels to stationary wheels. Torque vectoring operates whether you have a G.O.A.T. mode engaged or not.

I just don't see how without some pretty sophisticated testing you would know if brake or throttle function has changed, or if it is how it would help in an off-road situation.

I mean, it doesnt take sophisticated testing to be able to tell if the steering feedback has changed or if the throttle response is different lmao. Again, this is more of a 'lets find out' than anything else, it's not like we're ripping apart the car here

 

[Mark S.]

I mean, it doesnt take sophisticated testing to be able to tell if the steering feedback has changed or if the throttle response is different lmao. Again, this is more of a 'lets find out' than anything else, it's not like we're ripping apart the car here

I'm not suggesting you're ripping apart the car, I'm just questioning the goal. If you think you'll be able to tell a difference then give it a try and let us know what you discover. Personally, I've never had to use any G.O.A.T. mode other than NORMAL for anything I've done with the car, which included climbing up this hill.

 

[Trist0n]

I'm not suggesting you're ripping apart the car, I'm just questioning the goal. If you think you'll be able to tell a difference then give it a try and let us know what you discover. Personally, I've never had to use any G.O.A.T. mode other than NORMAL for anything I've done with the car, which included climbing up this hill.

I totally agree with you! Even if I can get them enabled, without mechanical assistance there’s probably not much/anything it would help with that normal mode can’t already do

I just want the cool screens to match what I’m doing when I spin the GOAT dial ?

 

[Trist0n]

Here’s an easy fun one for y’all; you can enable the “off road” tilt and angle screen on an OBX. Requires the 6.5 inch screen to work, smaller screens won’t


Offroad Cluster Screen

IPC:
720-07-02 0704 4883 < First Edition

720-07-02 0504 4881 < Outer Banks

Change 5 to 7, accept any checksum errors, write

here it is on my angled driveway with the wheel turned; totally works!!!

 

[Dude]

Here’s an easy fun one for y’all; you can enable the “off road” tilt and angle screen on an OBX. Requires the 6.5 inch screen to work, smaller screens won’t.

Nice!!

 

[Trist0n]

Continuing some science to see what’s possible. Swapped out the goat mode modules for funsies. Difficult to tell if the wiring is all there but the ports are the same at the very least.

No dice on the goat modes thus far; it was a longshot though. However there are other goodies. I DID manage to get the trail control button to light up, and the trail control menu comes up, but the SET buttons don’t do anything. Clearly the extra buttons WORK, can be seen by the system. Potentially hard controls for trail control, traction control, and ‘stay in 4x4’ could be enabled, but it’s not in the forscan easy modes for sure. Some more digging between the IPC’s to figured out how to tell the computer to let them work is needed.

 

[Kratz17]

Here’s an easy fun one for y’all; you can enable the “off road” tilt and angle screen on an OBX. Requires the 6.5 inch screen to work, smaller screens won’t


Offroad Cluster Screen

IPC:
720-07-02 0704 4883 < First Edition

720-07-02 0504 4881 < Outer Banks

Change 5 to 7, accept any checksum errors, write

here it is on my angled driveway with the wheel turned; totally works!!!

I can't figure out this one. Am I in the right spot?

 

[CoryB20]

Has anyone figured how to change the panic button to require 2 key presses instead of 1? I set the stupid thing off sometimes in my pocket.

I've done it in Forscan on my F150 and full size Bronco, but can't get to it for the Bronco Sport.

 

[Mark S.]

Has anyone figured how to change the panic button to require 2 key presses instead of 1? I set the stupid thing off sometimes in my pocket.

I've done it in Forscan on my F150 and full size Bronco, but can't get to it for the Bronco Sport.

I don't believe you can change this. According to the owner's manual two presses on the panic button is the "car finder" mode.

Car Finder

Press the button twice within three seconds. The horn sounds and the direction indicators flash. We recommend you use this method to locate your vehicle, rather than using the panic alarm.

Sounding a Panic Alarm

Press the button to activate the alarm. Press the button again or switch the ignition on to deactivate.

 

[Dude]

FYI …

SSM 51055 Adding/Removing Features Using Programmable Parameters Due To Vehicle Modifications

Vehicle Modifications

Ford and Lincoln vehicle owners may request modifications to their vehicle such as enabling daytime running lamps (DRL), adding navigation, changing tire/axle sizes, and/or adding trailer brake control modules.

A list of programmable parameters that are available for alteration is shown in Workshop Manual (WSM), Section 418-01A > Module Configuration.

Parameters available for alteration will vary by model and model year. If the desired parameter is not listed in the right column of the Module Configuration and Parameter Chart, alteration of that parameter is not supported by Ford Motor Company. A list of supported parts that can be added to the vehicle is available at accessories.ford.com.

Adding/removing accessories and/or programming vehicle features is not warrantable.

SSM 51055 located at: https://www.ford.com/support/service-information/

 

[coopny]

FYI …

SSM 51055 Adding/Removing Features Using Programmable Parameters Due To Vehicle Modifications

Vehicle Modifications

Ford and Lincoln vehicle owners may request modifications to their vehicle such as enabling daytime running lamps (DRL), adding navigation, changing tire/axle sizes, and/or adding trailer brake control modules.

A list of programmable parameters that are available for alteration is shown in Workshop Manual (WSM), Section 418-01A > Module Configuration.

Parameters available for alteration will vary by model and model year. If the desired parameter is not listed in the right column of the Module Configuration and Parameter Chart, alteration of that parameter is not supported by Ford Motor Company. A list of supported parts that can be added to the vehicle is available at accessories.ford.com.

Adding/removing accessories and/or programming vehicle features is not warrantable.

SSM 51055 located at: https://www.ford.com/support/service-information/

Good find. Sounds like some sabre rattling.

It's possible that Ford could use FORScan modifications as pretext to deny warranty work in the future, but the way it's written seems to be more of a precaution against dealers using FORScan to perform unsanctioned modifications. By saying the work is "not warrantable" in an SSM to dealers, they're saying that Ford will not back such work (whether it's done in bumper-to-bumper or powertrain warranties or if it's done out of warranty with the usual 1 year/12k warranty by Ford).

Either way I would recommend always backing up your AsBuilt to multiple locations (local and cloud) before doing any ForScan modifications... I doubt restoring from OASIS would trigger any flags, but OASIS integration to ForScan could break at any time, and I've seen reports that OASIS AsBuilt at a later date can have different data than what the vehicle actually shipped with (not meaningfully in terms of features, but not bit-for-bit identical.)

 

[xm41907]

So let's say I change a bunch of things on my 23 BS OB and I want to reset everything to factory default but I don't remember, how can I do that ??

Thanks!

I'm not sure if this works for everything or not. I just got a Badlands (2021) and auto start/stop was already disabled by the previous owner. When setting up my Fordpass, it suggested doing a factory reset to make sure the previous owner was removed from everything. After that my auto start/stop was back on by default. Tonight I got FORscan setup and re-disabled it. I'm wondering if factory reset clears all custom settings or only certain ones. This one was certainly reset.

 

[Dude]

I'm not sure if this works for everything or not. I just got a Badlands (2021) and auto start/stop was already disabled by the previous owner. When setting up my Fordpass, it suggested doing a factory reset to make sure the previous owner was removed from everything. After that my auto start/stop was back on by default. Tonight I got FORscan setup and re-disabled it. I'm wondering if factory reset clears all custom settings or only certain ones. This one was certainly reset.

@xm41907 Just a clarification question… I’m familiar with the Master Reset found under Settings on the 8” Display but I don’t remember seeing a “factory reset” option when setting up FordPass.

I believe I saw a FordPass Connect Modem Reset (to remove a prior owner) using these steps:

On 8” Display, select Settings,
Select the General icon,
Scroll down and select Reset,
Select FordPass Connect Reset,
Scroll down and select Reset All.

I had thought FORScan was needed to perform a factory reset.

How did you perform a “factory reset”?

 

[xm41907]

@xm41907 Just a clarification question… I’m familiar with the Master Reset found under Settings on the 8” Display but I don’t remember seeing a “factory reset” option when setting up FordPass.

I believe I saw a FordPass Connect Modem Reset (to remove a prior owner) using these steps:

On 8” Display, select Settings,
Select the General icon,
Scroll down and select Reset,
Select FordPass Connect Reset,
Scroll down and select Reset All.

I had thought FORScan was needed to perform a factory reset.

How did you perform a “factory reset”?

It's the same thing as a master reset...

https://www.ford.com/support/how-tos/sync/troubleshooting/how-do-i-perform-a-sync-masterfactory-reset/

It's designed to remove prior owner settings, but I was surprised it re-enabled the auto start/stop, as that's something you can only do through forscan or with an eliminator.

I haven't noticed anything else forscan related that might have changed, but I'd only had the car a few hours and driven it about 100 miles first.

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