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[coopny]

The only issue related to 1.5L fuel injectors is the recall to reroute fuel should one leak. I'm not aware of any other widespread issues regarding the fuel systems on those engines. Does anyone know of any?

If I'm right, then it appears a lot of people taking the survey are ignoring the directions to NOT include maintenance issues requiring shop visits related to recalls.

There's a number of TSBs, but it doesn't mean a problem is widespread, I'd agree. There's the recall (which is not supposed to be included in the rating, unless the user taking the survey doesn't read very plain directions) and then there's a customer satisfaction program in the 1.5L BS models (22N18) for which 15 years/150K miles there's a one time replacement if a fuel injector cracks after the "field service action" (recall) is done... Ford basically pitched the CS was for confidence and that the failure rate over that entire CS program was expected to be less than 0.4% of owners. While time will tell if Ford's correct, I haven't heard a ton of accounts of cracked fuel injectors post recall. However, not every single owner with an issue is going to post about it on a forum or social media.

CR does also not break out problems within the category, so for fuel we must take it for everything that rating covers:
Sensors (O₂, or oxygen, sensor), emission-control devices (includes EGR), fuel-injection system, fuel gauge/sender, fuel pump, problems filling up the tank.

How widespread the fuel injector problems are is not known, other than the recall mention it doesn't seem common.
2021 - 2022 BS had issues with the fuel filler pipe being slow/splashing back and was redesigned, TSB for owners of affected models who complained
2021-2022 BS had issues with fuel tank heat shield causing grinding noise, not sure if CR would classify this as a fuel issue however.

One I did hear about was for those of us in emissions testing states, that there were issues of mechanics being unable to perform emissions inspections. For a variety of reasons (especially convenience), even people in warranty don't always go to the dealer for safety & emissions inspections. SSM 50974 covers an issue for emissions inspections that required a gateway module update by the dealer to rectify. That's lumped in with the entire "fuel system". Some 1.5L BS also have catalytic converter issues.

Going back to emissions, if we assume that users on the CR survey are not reading directions properly and are listing recall/field service action items as "problems" that factor in reliability, then the fuel system/emissions category is a double whammy: you have the fuel injector fire risk recall on the 1.5Ls, and you have Ford mailing a corrected emissions label on the 2.0L as potential sources of unwanted negative data.

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[mmazz71]

Pretty sure I got my 2021 OB from the bad batch. I have 61000 hwy miles and have had it to the service shop numerous times for things other then oil changes.

Window regulator broke within the first month. Took a month to get parts.

OB Bronco kept losing coms with the key fob while it was in the vehicle.

Underbody air deflectors were flapping due to half of the fasteners being put on. (threads still had paint on the missing ones to indicate no installation).

Oil separator checked from recall. No cracks.

Intelligent hatch release button does not work 100% like the intelligent glass release (Ford said it was never supposed to work like the glass latch button). I call BS....still works intermittently

Had a recall done to replace faulty rear brake linings at 15000 miles and somehow now the rear brakes need to be replaced according to Ford service. I would say that indicates a subpar brake type. My opinion. I do not have adaptive cruise.

Had the SB done for moaning brakes.

Had the fuel injector recall done. Covered for up to 150,000 miles if they don't crack between then and now.

Missing hood insulation and engine cover. Was never supposed to be included right?

I have had a myriad of vehicles from other car manufacturers of new purchases with no issues whatsoever. Very upset that I bought into the hype from folks and sites like Car and Driver.

I know some diehard Ford folks will be chomping at the bit to tell me how wrong I am or how I should be happy they are fixing the issues. Not what ANYONE should expect from a new product. I work in metrology and the problem parts used to be mopar.....not anymore.

 

[sajohnson]

The only issue related to 1.5L fuel injectors is the recall to reroute fuel should one leak. I'm not aware of any other widespread issues regarding the fuel systems on those engines. Does anyone know of any?

If I'm right, then it appears a lot of people taking the survey are ignoring the directions to NOT include maintenance issues requiring shop visits related to recalls.

Exactly -- there's CR's policy, and then there is reality.

It's impossible to know what percentage of surveys include recalls, but no doubt many do.

 

[Hot Rod Mike]

If you believe everything CR says your a very shallow person

 

[millern64]

The 1.5L will continue to be a sore spot for the model. I love the BS but hate the 1.5L. Adequate power but I just don't trust it. Fortunately, I don't do many miles per so I took the chance. Ford should have had a 2.0L option. The 2.0L makes the BS a much better vehicle. I had the 2.0L in two Lincolns and it was great.

I have had the 2023 Heritage BS for 4 months and have a total engine failure with turbo replacement due to oil leaking into them. It is possible I am a one off but this huge problem has me agreeing with a low reliability rating. This is the first time I have had an issue like this on a new vehicle. There can be annoying recalls but having an engine fail within 4 months of owning a new vehicle is not something I expected.

 

[imaynzr]

Consumer Reports has become a shill for EV/Hybrid vehicles and their ratings of other items, in my experience, has been for the last decade mostly bull. I still subscribe but mainly to see how out of touch they are.

 

[RushMan]

Maybe #2.. I think the Big Bend is the best seller by far.

I have no doubt that the BB is the best seller of the Bronco Sport trims.
I found an older episode of a YouTube broadcast, where it was mentioned that Badlands capacity was about 17%. I won't mention that channel or the person making the statement, as Ford apparently doesn't like to publicize or release some of their production metrics.
Those metrics can also change month to month, year to year, dependent on vendor capacity and demand for each trim.

 

[rocks]

I have no doubt that the BB is the best seller of the Bronco Sport trims.
I found an older episode of a YouTube broadcast, where it was mentioned that Badlands capacity was about 17%. I won't mention that channel or the person making the statement, as Ford apparently doesn't like to publicize or release some of their production metrics.
Those metrics can also change month to month, year to year, dependent on vendor capacity and demand for each trim.

I'm in a Charlotte, NC suburb and dealers here usually have more BB in stock than other models.

 

[RushMan]

I'm in a Charlotte, NC suburb and dealers here usually have more BB in stock than other models.

Same here in Northern NJ. Badlands are hard to find on dealer lots. No matter to me, since I ordered way back in July.
But I want to investigate my finding of some recently produced Badlands without the Premium package which have window stickers showing Premium wrapped heated steering wheels in addition to the standard steering wheel listing.
Those stickers that I found were all produced (or in production) at the end of November, and early to mid-December, my own car included.
I am wondering if the heated option is really there, or if the factory installed premium wrapped heated steering wheels without the dash button, due to a vendor limitation. Or if it is just a documentation error.

 

[rocks]

Same here in Northern NJ. Badlands are hard to find on dealer lots. No matter to me, since I ordered way back in July.
But I want to investigate my finding of some recently produced Badlands without the Premium package which have window stickers showing Premium wrapped heated steering wheels in addition to the standard steering wheel listing.
Those stickers that I found were all produced (or in production) at the end of November, and early to mid-December, my own car included.
I am wondering if the heated option is really there, or if the factory installed premium wrapped heated steering wheels without the dash button, due to a vendor limitation. Or if it is just a documentation error.

Not many Badlands on the lots here. That's been the case since I was looking 6+ months ago. I don't know anything about that option pkg.

 

[RushMan]

Not many Badlands on the lots here. That's been the case since I was looking 6+ months ago. I don't know anything about that option pkg.

The Premium package for the Badlands include the moonroof, the B&O stereo, and heated steering wheel, and adds cross-traffic alert and parking warning.
It;s kind of a pisser that Ford chooses to withhold these 2 rear sensor safety features, unless one pays for the 3 grand Premium package. They should be part of the Co-Pilot 360+, IMO
I don't want leather seats, so no Premium package for me. I'm indifferent to heated steering wheel.
I wear gloves for the first 5 minutes of getting in my car in the winter. I find the threads on criticizing the plastic steering wheel on the lower trims amusing. I had to go out to my '17 Escape and see what wheel I have. I never really thought about it. Yup, it's a similar, if not the same, plastic wheel as on the Bronco Sports. It never bothered me at all.
If it turns out that my car does have a heated steering wheel, fine, maybe I'll use it. if not, I have no real concern. Here's a capture of a portion of the Standard Features section of the Monroney for my Badlands without the Premium Package:

On other Monroneys that I've examined, on cars without the Premium package or Convenience Packages, only the second highlighted item is present.
On an earlier '23 Badlands without Premium Package, It only listed the PRM WRAPPED STR WHL. I don't have a screen capture of that one.

The other interesting thing I found is the rarity of finding a Badlands with Co-Pilot 360+, with or without the Premium Package.

 

[Dude]

On my ‘22 Badlands with Premium Package the moonroof was an extra cost option when I ordered my BS which I didn’t go for. Interesting that now moonroof is standard in the Premium Package.

I did add Co-Pilot360 Assist+ for the Adaptive Cruise Control which was important for me and I use quite often. Most of the other features I have disabled.

 

[sajohnson]

The Premium package for the Badlands include the moonroof, the B&O stereo, and heated steering wheel, and adds cross-traffic alert and parking warning.
It;s kind of a pisser that Ford chooses to withhold these 2 rear sensor safety features, unless one pays for the 3 grand Premium package. They should be part of the Co-Pilot 360+, IMO
I don't want leather seats, so no Premium package for me. I'm indifferent to heated steering wheel.
I wear gloves for the first 5 minutes of getting in my car in the winter. I find the threads on criticizing the plastic steering wheel on the lower trims amusing. I had to go out to my '17 Escape and see what wheel I have. I never really thought about it. Yup, it's a similar, if not the same, plastic wheel as on the Bronco Sports. It never bothered me at all.
If it turns out that my car does have a heated steering wheel, fine, maybe I'll use it. if not, I have no real concern. Here's a capture of a portion of the Standard Features section of the Monroney for my Badlands without the Premium Package:

On other Monroneys that I've examined, on cars without the Premium package or Convenience Packages, only the second highlighted item is present.
On an earlier '23 Badlands without Premium Package, It only listed the PRM WRAPPED STR WHL. I don't have a screen capture of that one.

The other interesting thing I found is the rarity of finding a Badlands with Co-Pilot 360+, with or without the Premium Package.

We have one of those rare stripped Badlands.

We were considering the moonroof, and probably would have ordered it if it was a stand-alone purchase. IIRC, it was ~$700, but it could only be ordered with the Premium Package, so we decided against it.

We did look at what was included in the Premium Package, but very little of it had much value for us. Definitely not $2,100 worth.

If either of us drove in rush hour traffic, then, as Dude said, the Co-Pilot360 Assist+ would be worth it for the Adaptive Cruise Control. We don't, so we skipped that too.

The MSRP (incl. shipping) was $36,465, minus $1,000 from Ford for ordering = $35,465. IIRC, the OB was only about $750 less -- but it does have more electronic features, and I can see why it would appeal to many buyers.

For us, the 'base' Badlands made sense, but every situation is different.

Here's a good PDF listing the features for all of the 1.5L BS models in one column, and the BS in another:
https://media.ford.com/content/dam/fordmedia/North America/US/product/2022/bronco-sport/2022-Bronco-Sport-Tech-Specs.pdf

There are quite a few differences that are not promoted -- like the 400 watt inverter listed above (vs 150W).

 

[RushMan]

We have one of those rare stripped Badlands.

We were considering the moonroof, and probably would have ordered it if it was a stand-alone purchase. IIRC, it was ~$700, but it could only be ordered with the Premium Package, so we decided against it.

We did look at what was included in the Premium Package, but very little of it had much value for us. Definitely not $2,100 worth.

If either of us drove in rush hour traffic, then, as Dude said, the Co-Pilot360 Assist+ would be worth it for the Adaptive Cruise Control. We don't, so we skipped that too.

The MSRP (incl. shipping) was $36,465, minus $1,000 from Ford for ordering = $35,465. IIRC, the OB was only about $750 less -- but it does have more electronic features, and I can see why it would appeal to many buyers.

For us, the 'base' Badlands made sense, but every situation is different.

Here's a good PDF listing the features for all of the 1.5L BS models in one column, and the BS in another:
https://media.ford.com/content/dam/fordmedia/North America/US/product/2022/bronco-sport/2022-Bronco-Sport-Tech-Specs.pdf

There are quite a few differences that are not promoted -- like the 400 watt inverter listed above (vs 150W).

The Co-Pilot 360+ appeals to me for my trips from NJ to the Chicago area to see family. I'm expecting at least 1 trip up to Wisconson camping with my youngest sister's family and also out to South Dakota to their house and to visit nieces and nephews and their families this summer. I've never had anything
other than basic cruise control in my cars, and looking forward to the adaptive cruise control. I installed cruise control on my '84 VW Rabbit GTI (J.C. Whitney), which worked incredibly well. Dare I say it held speed better thsn the factory cruise in my later cars.

 

[sajohnson]

The Co-Pilot 360+ appeals to me for my trips from NJ to the Chicago area to see family. I'm expecting at least 1 trip up to Wisconson camping with my youngest sister's family and also out to South Dakota to their house and to visit nieces and nephews and their families this summer. I've never had anything
other than basic cruise control in my cars, and looking forward to the adaptive cruise control. I installed cruise control on my '84 VW Rabbit GTI (J.C. Whitney), which worked incredibly well. Dare I say it held speed better thsn the factory cruise in my later cars.

I did the same with my 1985 Toyota Truck. It worked great. It might have come from J.C. Whitney also, I can't recall.

Our driving is different from the norm. We have family in the Midwest also (west of Chicago and Iowa), but we use our RV for long drives. It has very good cruise control, but not adaptive cruise. Every once in a while that would be nice, but usually regular cruise works fine. I can bump it up/down in 1 mph increments.

The BS BL is only driven locally, and typically the conditions do not call for adaptive cruise.

That said, I definitely see how it would be very useful in heavy traffic.

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