2022 1.5L oil change question

[zedsdead]

Hey guys,
Sanity check me.
I did my first oil change and the owners manual said 5.3qts of oil.
I filled it to 5.3 and was only catching the bottom of the dip stick.
I added up to 5.5qt and it went up slightly, but also this dipstick is very hard to read.
I measured the oil I caught and it was about 5qts, so I don’t think I have the elusive 6.6qt capacity I’ve read about.
I have a plastic oil pan.

Does anybody else have the same experience?

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[cprcubed]

If you have the plastic oil pan, you have the 6.6 quart capacity. Cheers!

 

[zedsdead]

If you have the plastic oil pan, you have the 6.6 quart capacity. Cheers!

Now I’m slightly worried I’ve been running this thing 1qt short for 35k miles!
Ford has done my changes since now.

I notice if I use my headlamp to check the oil, I can see oil on the sides of the dip stick, but the oil doesn’t fill the viewing holes so it leads you to believe at first sight it’s not full.

if I use the side check method, it’s consistently in the middle at 5.5qts. I may drive it for a day and see what the level does.

 

[Mark S.]

I measured the oil I caught and it was about 5qts, so I don’t think I have the elusive 6.6qt capacity I’ve read about.

This isn't entirely unusual; there are a number of reasons for this:

• Some oil remains in the filter.
• If you drained the oil immediately after shut down some oil might not have drained from internal engine parts back into the pan.
• Your engine may have burned some oil between changes.

This is not an exhaustive list. The point is I wouldn't be too worried about having run the engine low on oil. The biggest dangers would be low oil pressure or overheat, and your car would have notified you if either of these conditions existed.

The manual recommends a given amount of oil be added during an oil/filter change, but keep in mind: it's a recommendation. You may need to add more or less to get your oil level to the fill line. If the oil level is in the middle of the min/max line you're good to go. If you find that refills following oil/filter changes puts you consistently near the min line then simply add more oil.

My suggestion is you check your oil more often between this change and the next to determine if your engine is burning oil. It's not unusual for these engines to burn a bit of oil, but if it becomes excessive it might an indication something is not right.

 

[zedsdead]

This isn't entirely unusual; there are a number of reasons for this:

• Some oil remains in the filter.
• If you drained the oil immediately after shut down some oil might not have drained from internal engine parts back into the pan.
• Your engine may have burned some oil between changes.

This is not an exhaustive list. The point is I wouldn't be too worried about having run the engine low on oil. The biggest dangers would be low oil pressure or overheat, and your car would have notified you if either of these conditions existed.

The manual recommends a given amount of oil be added during an oil/filter change, but keep in mind: it's a recommendation. You may need to add more or less to get your oil level to the fill line. If the oil level is in the middle of the min/max line you're good to go. If you find that refills following oil/filter changes puts you consistently near the min line then simply add more oil.

My suggestion is you check your oil more often between this change and the next to determine if your engine is burning oil. It's not unusual for these engines to burn a bit of oil, but if it becomes excessive it might an indication something is not right.

I will make sure to check my oil more regularly.
I don't really drain my filter, I just keep it tipped up and chuck it. (Yeah, it's not the most ethical...) So, that could have been where the remaining 0.25-0.3qts went.

It appears everyone is saying a plastic pan = 6.6qts.
Is this your understanding as well?
My owner's manual doesn't have this "insert" and says 5.3qts.

I also checked my previous records from the Ford dealer and they have been charging me for 5 quarts.

 

[dedwards0323]

I'm a little curious why Ford changed the oil pan from 2021 Models to later Models. Why would Ford Design want to increase the oil capacity in the 1.5L Ecoboost engine in the Bronco Sport? Or is this just a cost savings initiative to not have multiple oil pan designs on the 1.5L engine across the model range? Probably just answered my question!

 

[Mark S.]

It appears everyone is saying a plastic pan = 6.6qts.
Is this your understanding as well?
My owner's manual doesn't have this "insert" and says 5.3qts.

Yes, this is my understanding, but I own a Badlands. Your best bet is to contact your service department and get clarification. They should be able to tell you based on your VIN what Ford recommends for your particular vehicle.

The holes in the dipstick are just reference marks, like your fuel gauge--MIN, 1/4, 1/2/ 3/4, FULL. You don't need to see oil in the hole. There should be a clearly defined line around the dipstick where your current oil level is. If you pull the dipstick out several times you may see smears of oil on the side. That comes from oil on the end of the dipstick wiping off inside the tube, then getting smeared on the dipstick the next time you pull it out. If you see smears, wipe the dipstick with a paper towel and reinsert. Look for a clearly defined line around the dipstick. If you don't see that then you are below the minimum oil level and should add a quart.

I would think if your sump is 6.6 qts and you only poured in 5.3 then the oil level wouldn't be high enough to see on the dipstick. That's a guess on my part. If you see any oil on the dipstick I would not add a full qt. Add 1/4 qt at a time until you are up to the full mark.

Before checking your oil make sure the engine has been off for 10 minutes or so to allow all the oil to drain back into the pan. I recommend checking the oil first thing in the morning before driving for the first time.

 

[Mark S.]

I'm a little curious why Ford changed the oil pan from 2021 Models to later Models. Why would Ford Design want to increase the oil capacity in the 1.5L Ecoboost engine in the Bronco Sport? Or is this just a cost savings initiative to not have multiple oil pan designs on the 1.5L engine? Probably just answered my question!

It almost certainly has to do with oil service interval or engine cooling.

The intelligent oil-life monitor recommends change intervals based on an algorithm that takes into account ambient temperature and driving habits. But it's based on assumptions about how much contaminants the oil can hold in suspension without compromising lubricity. My guess is that Ford found based on use statistics that the 1.5L engine introduces more contaminants in the oil than originally tested. Increasing sump capacity means the oil can hold more contaminants.

Alternatively, Ford may have found that the original 5.3 qts did not provide enough oil cooling (yes, oil is a critical part of your engine's cooling system) for certain internal engine components. More oil capacity equals greater cooling capacity.

 

[dedwards0323]

Makes sense as to an engineering design change to improve engine performance & reliability. Wonder whether it would be recommended to change oil pans to the larger capacity for those of us that have the 2021 model?

 

[RushMan]

I'm a little curious why Ford changed the oil pan from 2021 Models to later Models. Why would Ford Design want to increase the oil capacity in the 1.5L Ecoboost engine in the Bronco Sport? Or is this just a cost savings initiative to not have multiple oil pan designs on the 1.5L engine across the model range? Probably just answered my question!

VW Beetle owners had an expression: "Oil is Life!"
since it is not only lubrication, but also an important part of engine cooling.

 

[roboto65]

This was an issue when I first got my BS even put it on here. But my issue was a faulty tech he was putting the wrong amount and my dipstick looked like yours.

https://www.broncosportforum.com/forum/threads/oil-loss-2023-bs-bb.9722/#post-171206

 

[rocks]

VW Beetle owners had an expression: "Oil if Life!"
since it is not only lubrication, but also an important part of engine cooling.

I remember changing the oil on my beetle many years ago. Couldn't get any easier.

 

[dedwards0323]

I went out and looked at FordPartsOnline for oil pans for the various model years of the Bronco Sport. For the 2021 Models, the oil pan P/N is JX6Z-6U003-A at a cost of $142.35. For the later model Bronco Sports, the oil pan P/N is JX6Z-6675-C at a cost of $29.41!

 

[Rawah652]

I've learned this the hard way as well. When you change your oil, never put in more than the overall capacity states. Also, you won't ever get out all of the oil in the engine, so you really shouldn't have to add that much new oil. If you're in doubt, always measure the amount of oil that comes out on your first oil change.

Also, it's in the owner's manual to wait to check the oil for at least 10 minutes after shutting the engine down. This allows the oil time to drain back down into the pan. If you're checking too early, the oil level will appear to be artificially low.

 

[KRPTX]

I will make sure to check my oil more regularly.
I don't really drain my filter, I just keep it tipped up and chuck it. (Yeah, it's not the most ethical...) So, that could have been where the remaining 0.25-0.3qts went.

It appears everyone is saying a plastic pan = 6.6qts.
Is this your understanding as well?
My owner's manual doesn't have this "insert" and says 5.3qts.

I also checked my previous records from the Ford dealer and they have been charging me for 5 quarts.

Hey guys,
Sanity check me.
I did my first oil change and the owners manual said 5.3qts of oil.
I filled it to 5.3 and was only catching the bottom of the dip stick.
I added up to 5.5qt and it went up slightly, but also this dipstick is very hard to read.
I measured the oil I caught and it was about 5qts, so I don’t think I have the elusive 6.6qt capacity I’ve read about.
I have a plastic oil pan.

Does anybody else have the same experience?

Link to Owner's Manual: https://www.fordservicecontent.com/Ford_Content/Catalog/owner_information/2023_Bronco_Sport_Owners_Manual_version_2_om_EN-US.pdf
6.6 qts for the 1.5L engine.