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haha oh yes it is. I get a kick out fo the people that thing the bad lands is a higher trim level, its a darn off road package, on a car thans not realy off road capable, with lower standard features than the OB. "trim" level is the creature comforts, so the fancy sterio, the 6" screen dash, heated leather trimed steats fog lights, dual climat zone, and on and on. these are all standard on the OB, because it was the highest trim level, the BL they are not standard they are options. thats like saying a FX ford truck is a higher trim level than a platinum
You might want to talk to Ford and correct their placing the Badlands as the highest trim level. I’m sure they’ll be glad to fix that error.

As far as it not being off-road capable, well, I guess I’ll just have to stop going off-road, mudding, and rock crawling in mine and head to the mall and park it up next to an Outer Banks.

I should probably also ask for a refund for the Off-Roadeo, since obviously everything we did at Moab was just some kind of induced hallucination.
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I'll have to look under the glove box to see what panel you are talking about, andyoumust be talking about the readhead rests, ya they only did that for one year thenthe odd one here and there. again it was eliminated because that is a useless feature
The panel serves a couple functions -- it protects the fan and wiring, and it has some sound deadening material. There has been much written about it here on the forum.

The usefulness of the folding headrests varies. Some owners will never use them; others will use them occasionally; and some will use them routinely.

If an owner never folds the rear seatbacks forward, or does, but the front seats are positioned far enough forward that there is clearance -- no problem.

However, if the owner has one or both front seats adjusted rearward such that they prevent the rear seatbacks from folding forward, then either: a) the front seats must be moved forward, and then back into their original position, or b) the headrests must be removed and stored somewhere.

Our '97 RAV4 has non-folding headrests, but Toyota provides holes for the headrest posts on the back of each backseat, so the headrests are kept clean and secure. Ford apparently expects owners to toss the headrests in the cargo area or on the floor -- where they will pick up dirt and lint like one of these:

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So the folding headrests can be useful.
 

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You might want to talk to Ford and correct their placing the Badlands as the highest trim level. I’m sure they’ll be glad to fix that error.

As far as it not being off-road capable, well, I guess I’ll just have to stop going off-road, mudding, and rock crawling in mine and head to the mall and park it up next to an Outer Banks.

I should probably also ask for a refund for the Off-Roadeo, since obviously everything we did at Moab was just some kind of induced hallucination.
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I'd forgotten that the Badlands was/is the most expensive trim level.

It wasn't a huge difference in price over the OB, which was in part how we justified it to ourselves. True, many of the electronic features were optional, but we were not particularly interested in them. On the plus side, the Badlands has:

* The 2.0L engine
* A more capable AWD system
* Liquid cooled PDU (vs air cooled)
* Manual shifting
* A front camera
* A full size spare tire
* A more powerful inverter
* Stronger suspension
* Storage space under the rear seat (IIRC that's BL only)
* Rubber rear seatback covers (also BL only?)
* Front tow hooks
* Skid plate (kind of a PITA when changing oil but useful)

Probably a couple other things I'm forgetting.

That doesn't mean it's "better", just that it was a better choice for us. Most people don't need any of that, but where we live it can be useful.

As for whether the BL or OB is a 'higher trim level', if we go by MSRP it's the BL, but I can see how a person who has no need for the BL features but is focused on the electronic options might consider the OB to be a higher trim level.
 

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:cool:

I'd forgotten that the Badlands was/is the most expensive trim level.

It wasn't a huge difference in price over the OB, which was in part how we justified it to ourselves. True, many of the electronic features were optional, but we were not particularly interested in them. On the plus side, the Badlands has:

* The 2.0L engine
* A more capable AWD system
* Liquid cooled PDU (vs air cooled)
* Manual shifting
* A front camera
* A full size spare tire
* A more powerful inverter
* Stronger suspension
* Storage space under the rear seat (IIRC that's BL only)
* Rubber rear seatback covers (also BL only?)
* Front tow hooks
* Skid plate (kind of a PITA when changing oil but useful)

Probably a couple other things I'm forgetting.

That doesn't mean it's "better", just that it was a better choice for us. Most people don't need any of that, but where we live it can be useful.

As for whether the BL or OB is a 'higher trim level', if we go by MSRP it's the BL, but I can see how a person who has no need for the BL features but is focused on the electronic options might consider the OB to be a higher trim level.
The OB is the "luxe" trim, with the BB as base and BL as off-road dedicated. The OB is what I'd expect if Mercury were still around, but with less chrome.

It's the same trim lineup in the full-size Bronco as to where they fall. BL > OB > BB. Heritage and the Stroppe are more specialty trims than mainline, similar to Raptors across the entire Ford lineup.
 

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haha oh yes it is. I get a kick out fo the people that thing the bad lands is a higher trim level, its a darn off road package, on a car thans not realy off road capable, with lower standard features than the OB. "trim" level is the creature comforts, so the fancy sterio, the 6" screen dash, heated leather trimed steats fog lights, dual climat zone, and on and on. these are all standard on the OB, because it was the highest trim level, the BL they are not standard they are options. thats like saying a FX ford truck is a higher trim level than a platinum
Those were all standard on my Badlands.
 


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The OB is the "luxe" trim, with the BB as base and BL as off-road dedicated. The OB is what I'd expect if Mercury were still around, but with less chrome.

It's the same trim lineup in the full-size Bronco as to where they fall. BL > OB > BB. Heritage and the Stroppe are more specialty trims than mainline, similar to Raptors across the entire Ford lineup.
I just bought a 2022 Badlands with 48,000 miles on it. I test drove a blue one that had a slight lift kit on it the dealer said. The white one I bought rode a little smoother than the blue one with the lift kit. The white one I bought had brand new GeoTour tires. I have never heard of that tire but, it rides pretty good. I never test drove an Outer Banks to see if they rode any better/smoother. I say that because people here are saying the OB is the luxury model. Hey, I got the bottle opener at the back end! That's luxury right?!!!LOL
 

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Don’t mind my asking, but what is this “panel” under the glovebox?
 

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:cool:

I'd forgotten that the Badlands was/is the most expensive trim level.

It wasn't a huge difference in price over the OB, which was in part how we justified it to ourselves. True, many of the electronic features were optional, but we were not particularly interested in them. On the plus side, the Badlands has:

* The 2.0L engine
* A more capable AWD system
* Liquid cooled PDU (vs air cooled)
* Manual shifting
* A front camera
* A full size spare tire
* A more powerful inverter
* Stronger suspension
* Storage space under the rear seat (IIRC that's BL only)
* Rubber rear seatback covers (also BL only?)
* Front tow hooks
* Skid plate (kind of a PITA when changing oil but useful)

Probably a couple other things I'm forgetting.

That doesn't mean it's "better", just that it was a better choice for us. Most people don't need any of that, but where we live it can be useful.

As for whether the BL or OB is a 'higher trim level', if we go by MSRP it's the BL, but I can see how a person who has no need for the BL features but is focused on the electronic options might consider the OB to be a higher trim level.
The under-seat storage is BL only, last I heard, not sure about the rubber rear seat mats.

The 2.0L engine alone is a big reason why I chose the BL, mostly for on-road use, not off-road. I did buy the BL for off-road use, but the 2.0L gives a lot more oomph on the freeway. When I'm driving on the 395 freeway behind a slow-moving truck, and only have a short passing lane, that extra power comes in handy. It's also got a better reliability reputation.
 


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As far as it not being off-road capable, well, I guess I’ll just have to stop going off-road, mudding, and rock crawling in mine and head to the mall and park it up next to an Outer Banks.

I should probably also ask for a refund for the Off-Roadeo, since obviously everything we did at Moab was just some kind of induced hallucination.
the broncosport was dusinged as a cross over sub with a bit ofoffroadcapability. so camping and getting to fishing lakes and such. peoplewill always use it formore and if your carefull youcan do alittle more. I use mine, aside as my daily comuter, to scout out new lakes to go camping at and such, but out here we don't even thinking of taking them off road as our off roading is different. if I was going off road I would have bought the bullit and bought a full size bronco at minimum. yes they are good for playing dirt roads and a little bit of other stuff, but the suspension parts are not heavy duity enough, there isn't anywhere near enough articulation or ground clearance. so I guess it all depends on what your calling off roading
 

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the broncosport was dusinged as a cross over sub with a bit ofoffroadcapability. so camping and getting to fishing lakes and such. peoplewill always use it formore and if your carefull youcan do alittle more. I use mine, aside as my daily comuter, to scout out new lakes to go camping at and such, but out here we don't even thinking of taking them off road as our off roading is different. if I was going off road I would have bought the bullit and bought a full size bronco at minimum. yes they are good for playing dirt roads and a little bit of other stuff, but the suspension parts are not heavy duity enough, there isn't anywhere near enough articulation or ground clearance. so I guess it all depends on what your calling off roading
The BS BL—even before the Sasquatch package—had proven itself to be far more capable than anyone expected. Look at any serious, unbiased off-road journalist and you’ll get a grudging respect at least, and a surprising admiration more often as not.

For a brief example, here’s a 2021 Badlands at Hell’s Gate which has embarrassed many a modded Jeep:

 

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The BS BL—even before the Sasquatch package—had proven itself to be far more capable than anyone expected. Look at any serious, unbiased off-road journalist and you’ll get a grudging respect at least, and a surprising admiration more often as not.

For a brief example, here’s a 2021 Badlands at Hell’s Gate which has embarrassed many a modded Jeep:

That's crazy! I wouldn't dare do that to a vehicle I bought!
 

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I paid for and used Consumer Reports once when it was time to make my refrigerator purchase. The #1 top rated fridge on their page is literately the worst fridge I have ever owned. Consumer Reports lost my trust FOREVER.
For every experience like yours, there are many more who are happy with the advice they got.

My brother was really upset with CR for years because of some bad advice about AV software. However, to this day he still has a subscription because he realizes the value for himself and his clients (he has a computer business).

No doubt there are many valid complaints about CR. They make mistakes. That said, sometimes issues are blamed on them when the problem is beyond their control. Mfrs put out some percentage of DOA/defective products. The buyers who get them may blame CR when they should be looking at the mfr.

It's typically impossible for CR (or anyone) to test long-term durability. That can be an issue. A product may test well but develop problems later. That can't be avoided.

People often get upset when CR gives their car/truck/whatever a less than excellent rating. That's understandable, but CR is still the best source of objective info out there.

BTW, the Bronco Sport was highly rated and recommended by CR when we bought our '22 BSBL. The decrease in ratings is more recent.
 

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The BS BL—even before the Sasquatch package—had proven itself to be far more capable than anyone expected. Look at any serious, unbiased off-road journalist and you’ll get a grudging respect at least, and a surprising admiration more often as not.

For a brief example, here’s a 2021 Badlands at Hell’s Gate which has embarrassed many a modded Jeep:

I have been up (and down the "drop in" at) Hell's gate a handful of times, in a TRX, a 392 Wrangler, and MOST surprisingly, a bone stock latest generation Grand Cherokee (WL) and NOT the Trail Hawk model. It didn't even have electronic lockers like the rear of the BS BL, just the "virtual" lockers - brake torque vectoring and was riding on street tires. The drop in is almost worse than going up. IIRC, we scraped the rockers slightly on the WL on the drop in. We had a hired guide/spotter. He asked if he could drive the WL and we switched seats and ran it a couple more times. Even he was amazed that it tackled it without issue! We were giggling because we had the A/C on, cooled seats on and set to massage mode while we were tackling the obstacle. To be honest, even after driving it several times, I'm not sure I would have the [guts] to do it again on my own without an experienced spotter. It's something that would be challenging to walk up, and it's utterly amazing to ride in a vehicle that can tackle that obstacle, not to mention driving one that can. It's near the very top of the most exciting things I have ever done in a vehicle. I agree that the Bronco Sport Badlands is one of, if not the most capable "soft roaders" in its class . It's 85% of the reason I bought it. I overlooked the less-than-stellar reliability because of this, even though I will probably never do anything THAT extreme with it. It's nice to know you can if you want to.

In addition to this, if you still don't believe it's surprisingly capable for what it is, watch some of Driving Sports TV channel's videos on the BS BL. He seems to be a bit of a Subaru fan, but he now owns a BS BL for the channel and has tested it numerous times, always with shockingly positive comments on it's off-road capability. Even he admits it's best in class. This is NOT to say it's competing with the likes of Wranglers and full-sized Broncos, BUT for what it is, it's quite impressive!
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