Outer Banks vs Badlands

[SgtT11B]

Car and Driver acceleration comparison..

1.5L

C/D TEST RESULTS
60 mph: 8.2 sec
1/4 mile: 16.3 sec @ 84 mph
100 mph: 26.8 sec

2.0L

C/D TEST RESULTS
60 mph: 5.9 sec
1/4 mile: 14.5 sec @ 93 mph
100 mph: 17.3 sec
C/D used the same test method with the 1ft. rollout of .3 sec. for both tests.

I know the BS is not really for high speed but look at the 0-100 time, the 2.0 litre was better by over 9 seconds.

Like I said I never would have even gotten this car with just a 1.5L motor. I would have kept the Escape.

If you're happy with the 1.5L awesome!!! Happy for you. For a lot of us though it wasn't going to cut it.

Here is their test of the 2020 Titanium Escape, a lot of the reason its quite a bit better than the Bronco is the tires.

C/D
TEST RESULTS
Rollout, 1ft: 0.3 sec
60 mph: 5.7 sec
100 mph: 15.5 sec
120 mph: 25.7 sec
Rolling start, 5–60 mph: 6.6 sec
Top gear, 30–50 mph: 3.0 sec
Top gear, 50–70 mph: 4.0 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 14.3 sec @ 96 mph

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[M3H7363]

It may crack you up but how am I wrong? The 1.5L motor is lethargic compared to the 2.0. This was my impression. For those that don't want to pony up for the BL with the 2.0 don't drive it. You will be sorely disappointed with the base 1.5L. The 2.0 has 70 more hp, over 80 ft/lbs of torque in a similar weight vehicle. I never would have even considered a BS if it only came with the 1.5L.

This guy disagrees and he owns one of each.

 

[Adam CW]

During our test drive of the 1.5 we attempted to pass a vehicle in front of us traveling at 65mph.

The 1.5 made a lot of noise and did pass but it was slow. The response was vastly different to the 2.0.

I don’t think anyone is saying the 1.5 is bad, but it is the base engine and is significantly less powerful than the 2.0.

The 2.0 offers more horsepower and torque, which is great for acceleration and passing.

It’s really not simply about speed. We typically accelerate at a rate the 1.5 would. However, the 2.0 does it better. It’s requires less effort, feels better and sounds better (pretty quiet).

The 1.5 BS we tested had a lot of vibration. It could be felt throughout the seats, steering wheel and floor.

Is that normal for the 1.5?

We rejected the 1.5 based on the vibration alone.

 

[MJE]

I've read that is available in other countries on the Badlands but not in the US.

Correct. My BL in Canada has the rain sensing wipers (& whatever the wiper de-icer is), as does even the base model here. Which is awesome, but not sure why they don’t just include it for the US as well. The upper half of the nation gets just as much winter as we do.

 

[SgtT11B]

This guy disagrees and he owns one of each.
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That means absolutely nothing to me. I only know from my own experience of driving both vehicles and having a 2 litre Ford Escape.

If I felt the 1.5L was adequate I would have bought it. Well to be honest the Focus RS diffy with the BL had a lot to do with it as well. Once again if you own a 1.5L BS enjoy to your hearts content. For me there just wasn't enough horses with the 1.5L.

We don't have to agree, that's the beauty of choice.

 

[SgtT11B]

During our test drive of the 1.5 we attempted to pass a vehicle in front of us traveling at 65mph.

The 1.5 made a lot of noise and did pass but it was slow. The response was vastly different to the 2.0.

I don’t think anyone is saying the 1.5 is bad, but it is the base engine and is significantly less powerful than the 2.0.

The 2.0 offers more horsepower and torque, which is great for acceleration and passing.

It’s really not simply about speed. We typically accelerate at a rate the 1.5 would. However, the 2.0 does it better. It’s requires less effort, feels better and sounds better (pretty quiet).

The 1.5 BS we tested had a lot of vibration. It could be felt throughout the seats, steering wheel and floor.

Is that normal for the 1.5?

We rejected the 1.5 based on the vibration alone.

A lot of the reviewers felt the 1.5L had a lot of vibration. The BS BB I drove had vibration as well under load. Under normal driving I didn't really feel it. There is a reason manufacturers have even numbers when it comes to powerplants. I4, I6 or V6 V8. I remember when Volkswagen and Audi came out with 5 cyl. engines and they had to use countershafts to get them to balance out to be smooth under load.

 

[bjbena]

During our test drive of the 1.5 we attempted to pass a vehicle in front of us traveling at 65mph.

The 1.5 made a lot of noise and did pass but it was slow. The response was vastly different to the 2.0.

I don’t think anyone is saying the 1.5 is bad, but it is the base engine and is significantly less powerful than the 2.0.

The 2.0 offers more horsepower and torque, which is great for acceleration and passing.

It’s really not simply about speed. We typically accelerate at a rate the 1.5 would. However, the 2.0 does it better. It’s requires less effort, feels better and sounds better (pretty quiet).

The 1.5 BS we tested had a lot of vibration. It could be felt throughout the seats, steering wheel and floor.

Is that normal for the 1.5?

We rejected the 1.5 based on the vibration alone.

I owned an OB and I don't feel it was that bad. Did/does it have less power than the BL? Sure. Is it slower than the BL? Yup. Was it gasping while accelerating like @SgtT11B said? I don't think so. I would drive on the highway almost monthly for hours each time and never once did I feel it was struggling. Sure the Badlands does it better, but I don't feel the 1.5L was as anemic as some play it out to be.

Correct. My BL in Canada has the rain sensing wipers (& whatever the wiper de-icer is), as does even the base model here. Which is awesome, but not sure why they don’t just include it for the US as well. The upper half of the nation gets just as much winter as we do.

Ford's attempt at making the OB model be the 'luxurious' model with extra creature comforts.

A lot of the reviewers felt the 1.5L had a lot of vibration. The BS BB I drove had vibration as well under load. Under normal driving I didn't really feel it. There is a reason manufacturers have even numbers when it comes to powerplants. I4, I6 or V6 V8. I remember when Volkswagen and Audi came out with 5 cyl. engines and they had to use countershafts to get them to balance out to be smooth under load.

Or Volvo for that matter. I think they were using 5 cylinder engines up until 2011 or 2012. Crap, I mean didn't Chevy have a 5 cylinder that was plagued with issues?

 

[69cuda340s]

Badlands is the main reason to get the bronco sport. Otherwise a RAV4 is probably a better option for most.

What he said. If it wasn't for Badlands with the 2.0 locking rear diff ect I would have bought another brand.

 

[Jrl]

If the 2.0 wasn't offered I would not ha
What he said. If it wasn't for Badlands with the 2.0 locking rear diff ect I would have bought another brand.

Yes agree , I would have gone after the 2.3 outer banks absolutely .

 

[SgtT11B]

When I say gasping, its when you are passing at higher speeds.

 

[69cuda340s]

When I say gasping, its when you are passing at higher speeds.

Gasping but prob enough to keep up with traffic and for a lot of ppl thats fine.

Me I always get the biggest eng possible because more fun to drive and I like the feeling of an eng that can move vehicle without effort. Like when I go up steep hill I hardly touch gas pedal and 2.0 eagerly zips right up it. Makes for more enjoyable driving experience.

 

[JerryC]

I think I may have said this on the site before.
IMHO, there are a combination of four actions to avoid a problem.
Observation
Steering
Braking
Acceleration

Besides the fun factor, more power gives you a better option than less power. If you've ever had people shoot at you then acceleration is really really important.

 

[Adam CW]

We had a 2016 Ford Fusion with a 1.5 Ecoboost engine for about three years.

After about two years we had to take it to the dealership for a warranty repair. They had it for about five days.

The dealership provided a 2017 Fusion Titanium with a 2.0 Ecoboost as a loaner.

Of course, the Titanium was essentially identical to our Fusion but had some additional features. The biggest difference was the engine.

The 2.0 made the Fusion feel like a different car. It was so much quicker, more effortless, smoother and quieter.

The 2.0 made a vastly bigger difference than any additional feature.

 

[delm]

I think I may have said this on the site before.
IMHO, there are a combination of four actions to avoid a problem.
Observation
Steering
Braking
Acceleration

Besides the fun factor, more power gives you a better option than less power. If you've ever had people shoot at you then acceleration is really really important.

100% this.I keep hearing people say something along the lines of, “I didn’t go with the 2.0 because I’m not looking for a race car” or that “I don’t have a heavy foot” or something else speed related.

Not a single person bought the Badlands because they plan to race it. People did buy it for different reasons, but the simple safety of having greater acceleration available was 100% an influence in my decision. The ability to race it? 0% of my reasoning.

 

[delm]

It's funny, because I regularly set my cruise control at 75-80 on the highway when it's clear and have never once felt like I was struggling in my OBX to get up to speed or stay at speed.

I believe you. And clearly there is a market for the 3 cylinder engine. I’m old enough to remember when people that had only known 6 and 8 cylinders looked at 4 cylinders suspiciously. I remember my dad wondering about a 4 cylinder’s longevity. Any such concerns were proven decades ago to be unfounded by now.

i suspect someday, the 3 cylinder will be similar. We’ll laugh at the fact that people had concerns about them, after people have 200k miles, 300k miles, and more, and the engines are proven to have real durability.

This is really about personal preference and nothing more.

my personal preference is to have more engine than I’d ever need. I like to cruise at highway speeds knowing I’m not even giving the engine a sweat. I still prefer 6 cylinders to 4, and so would also prefer 4 to 3. But that’s just me. There is absolutely nothing wrong with anybody else being Ok with less power and better fuel efficiency.

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