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I did not buy mine until I fully understood the drive system, it limitations and abilities and I still say it’s an Escape on steroids.
But it’s on some really good steroids I think. :’P
Op, drive it, trust that you got what you paid for and above all else read the owners manual. !
Mine stayed on the back of the toilet for months.. :’P
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I did not buy mine until I fully understood the drive system, it limitations and abilities and I still say it’s an Escape on steroids.
But it’s on some really good steroids I think. :’P
Op, drive it, trust that you got what you paid for and above all else read the owners manual. !
Mine stayed on the back of the toilet for months.. :’P
I see you have 04 ecape on your vehicle list, I'm sure you can compare them with the 4wd system, but i doubt the difference of the technology from 04 to now tech pretty sure not comparable. As far as owning my bronco sport BL, I helluva enjoy every time I drive it and I cant stop staring on it every time I park it. Ford nailed the Bronco!!
 

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My Fusion did this, and my Escapes did this. Its Fords Intelligent 4wd. you get 4wd when necessary, and 2wd when you don't need it. Its all about optimization, and your fuel economy benefits from this.
Full time 4wd is quite gas guzzley.
Ford has been quite open about it and how it works. No false advertising here. There's been plenty of articles and videos how Ford and Subaru's 4wd systems differ out there.
 


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YOU DO NOT WANT full-time 4WD with a.) no option to turn it OFF and/or b.) no computer control to distribute wheel torque where and as needed, and c.) computer control to protect the driveline from wear and tear and 'user error.' The photo appears to show Normal Mode, NO 4WD nor rear-drive locks engaged -- so this is normal (and desirable) operation. Yes, the other trims (non-BL/FE) are really better-than-average AWD vehicles, and really following the "traditional" definition if there really is one accepted by all -- the BL/FE can do a pretty good simulation of 4WD with its advanced systems -- even performing better under many conditions.
 

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I did not buy mine until I fully understood the drive system, it limitations and abilities and I still say it’s an Escape on steroids.
But it’s on some really good steroids I think. :’P
Op, drive it, trust that you got what you paid for and above all else read the owners manual. !
Mine stayed on the back of the toilet for months.. :’P
Well...?... there are other brand all wheel drive vehicles before the Escape that the Escape is mimicking...

...?? however you did choose the model that is the Bronco sport because it is different enough to not be called
an escape.?
 

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I've been watching my intelligent 4wd system in my bronco and majority of the wheel that is turning its the front wheel, I would say 90% of the time. Then when Im on stop light and accelerate that's when the 4 wheel works at the same. And obviously when I lock/press my 4wd mode powers all 4 wheels. What are your opinions on this?
Ford Bronco Sport Is this 4WD false advertisement from ford?? Check out the picture.. 20220125_135101
That's how it works just like my escape it's great for driving on mixed road conditions
 

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Did anyone notice how Ford paid tribute to the first year Bronco? :inspect: :rockon:
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My wife and I have 2 older "AWD" vehicles, a WRX and a RAV4. I put AWD in quotes because very, very few so-called AWD vehicles are truly ALL(4) wheel drive. The Subaru WRX ("From the wheels that slip to the wheels that grip") is really ONE (1) wheel drive! If just one tire is on a slick surface the car will be stuck (so in reality it's, "From the wheels that grip to the wheel that slips!"). I confirmed this at The local Ford/Subaru dealer I purchased it from, using my car and then a brand new one off their lot. The Ford techs got a good laugh out of how weak and pathetic the "AWD" was. To be fair, Subaru has made several AWD systems over the years. I think the automatic WRX had a better system.

The RAV4 is much better. It has a 5 speed manual, and those models had a manually locking center differential (diff) which is essentially like 'four-wheel high' in a 4WD SUV or truck. So that means at least one front tire and one rear tire have to lose traction before you're stuck. It also has a "Torsen" (limited slip) rear diff, so it is basically 3 wheel drive (although a Torsen does not fully lock).

Before buying our 5MT RAV we test drove an automatic at a local Toyota dealer. It was parked on the grass outside the showroom. I started it, put it in D/drive and...nothing. It didn't budge. The parking brake was off. We looked out at the tires and the right front tire was spinning in the grass -- the other 3 were stationary! It was ONE (1) wheel drive. Lame.

In short, "AWD" buyer beware! All AWD systems are NOT the same. The Ford Bronco Sport Badlands (we have one on order) is one of the best (for a small SUV). Even the BL is not truly "all-wheel drive", in that while the PDU can be locked, and the rear diff can be locked (with clutches), the front cannot. Front tire spin is controlled with the traction control system. That's a whole lot better than nothing, just not ideal (applying the brakes when you want to move forward).

Last I read about them, Mercedes "AWD" SUVs had all open diffs and relied on traction control exclusively. That's "The Best or Nothing" Mercedes in their SUVs that cost double hat a BL costs. That system could overheat the brakes -- then it would shut down -- leaving the driver with a classic ONE (1) wheel drive fancy SUV.

There really should be a standardized diagram that mfrs have to put on a window sticker showing exactly what their "AWD" system consists of.

Also, for those who may not know, braking in an AWD vehicle is not any better than in a 2-wheel drive car. In fact, a front-heel drive (FWD) car with winter tires will outperform an AWD or 4WD truck or SUV with all-season tires -- the car will have better braking; handling; and steering. The 4WD vehicle will only be better at accelerating and hill-climbing. The FWD with winter tires is faster around a snow/ice course as well.
 

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When I stop my BS in the middle of my steep loose gravel climb I can briskly restart just like I was on level pavement with absolutely no loss of traction on any of the four wheels.
I did this once with ice under one front tire on this steep section up to my house.
If it slipped I didn’t feel it. The other three took over.
I did this again with both right side tires on ice.
It slipped, on the ice, I steered a bit left and the left side dutifully pulled me up the 14% grade until I was off the ice patch.
Several times on my dry loose steep gravel I’ve watched the AWD RAV 4 loose it if it stops while going up slow and steady
And have to back down and need a running start to try again.
Only my Bronco Sport BASE and the true 4x4 pick up trucks and a Nissan Path Finder can stop and easily restart while on this climb when things are dry and loose.
We have a Subaru, two Rav 4’s, Two AWD Ford Escapes !
And a few more so called AWD’s. Not a single one can do this.
 

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This video does a lot of slip tests possibly every situation you can get in. Everything you need to know about the tech in these bronco sports 4x4 performance (BadLands and First Edition trims which has a more advance 4x4) This ain't your typical AWD vehicles.
 
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In short, "AWD" buyer beware! All AWD systems are NOT the same.
There really should be a standardized diagram that mfrs have to put on a window sticker showing exactly what their "AWD" system consists of.
?? %

Too many variations of
awd/4x4.

Even just considering in the Bronco sport lineup the difference in base, big bend and Outer Banks
versus Badlands and first edition.

they are different yet still identified on paper with the same lettering/description.

Perhaps systems that are only activated by the vehicle sensors should be
iawd
Intelligent all-wheel drive.

Subaru Forester Outback are consistently awd always
 
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My wife and I have 2 older "AWD" vehicles, a WRX and a RAV4. I put AWD in quotes because very, very few so-called AWD vehicles are truly ALL(4) wheel drive. The Subaru WRX ("From the wheels that slip to the wheels that grip") is really ONE (1) wheel drive! If just one tire is on a slick surface the car will be stuck (so in reality it's, "From the wheels that grip to the wheel that slips!"). I confirmed this at The local Ford/Subaru dealer I purchased it from, using my car and then a brand new one off their lot. The Ford techs got a good laugh out of how weak and pathetic the "AWD" was. To be fair, Subaru has made several AWD systems over the years. I think the automatic WRX had a better system.

The RAV4 is much better. It has a 5 speed manual, and those models had a manually locking center differential (diff) which is essentially like 'four-wheel high' in a 4WD SUV or truck. So that means at least one front tire and one rear tire have to lose traction before you're stuck. It also has a "Torsen" (limited slip) rear diff, so it is basically 3 wheel drive (although a Torsen does not fully lock).

Before buying our 5MT RAV we test drove an automatic at a local Toyota dealer. It was parked on the grass outside the showroom. I started it, put it in D/drive and...nothing. It didn't budge. The parking brake was off. We looked out at the tires and the right front tire was spinning in the grass -- the other 3 were stationary! It was ONE (1) wheel drive. Lame.

In short, "AWD" buyer beware! All AWD systems are NOT the same. The Ford Bronco Sport Badlands (we have one on order) is one of the best (for a small SUV). Even the BL is not truly "all-wheel drive", in that while the PDU can be locked, and the rear diff can be locked (with clutches), the front cannot. Front tire spin is controlled with the traction control system. That's a whole lot better than nothing, just not ideal (applying the brakes when you want to move forward).

Last I read about them, Mercedes "AWD" SUVs had all open diffs and relied on traction control exclusively. That's "The Best or Nothing" Mercedes in their SUVs that cost double hat a BL costs. That system could overheat the brakes -- then it would shut down -- leaving the driver with a classic ONE (1) wheel drive fancy SUV.

There really should be a standardized diagram that mfrs have to put on a window sticker showing exactly what their "AWD" system consists of.

Also, for those who may not know, braking in an AWD vehicle is not any better than in a 2-wheel drive car. In fact, a front-heel drive (FWD) car with winter tires will outperform an AWD or 4WD truck or SUV with all-season tires -- the car will have better braking; handling; and steering. The 4WD vehicle will only be better at accelerating and hill-climbing. The FWD with winter tires is faster around a snow/ice course as well.
"There really should be a standardized diagram that mfrs have to put on a window sticker showing exactly what their "AWD" system consists of."

I couldn't have said it better myself!! specially for novice who don't know anything about AWD system just like myself :crackup:lol, like I stated in my post, I came from rear wheel drive majority of my cars. When some people hear AWD some may think its actual AWD that powers all 4 wheel full time.
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