After the battery recall

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FWIW, I'm continuing to monitor battery voltage with the new AGM.

It was installed on 6/5. The voltage was 12.83V after getting home from the dealer and sitting for a couple hours.

On 6/10 it was 12.67V. Then, after a short drive to the grocery store and back (6 miles each way) and sitting for for a few hours it was 12.68V.

So far, so good.
 
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I’m not sure why, but the headlight cooling fans run quieter since I had the AGM battery installed. I’m assuming they installed the the latest software update as well. Just an observation.
 

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BS 21 First Edition, never had an issue - mobile service came and changed my battery, (found a part to my air intake on my driveway and they came out and put that back on), within one week, charging service soon, sputtering, and went to an appointment, came out an hour later - DEAD. jumped, took it to a local place to test battery, rated bad replace. took to dealership, they said it didn't fail - finally gave me a new battery and will 'deal with it on the backend.' engine light on after message about shutting down features to conserve battery power, engine light has not gone off. seems the recall has done to my car the very thing it was supposed to fix and that I did not have an issue with. dealer wants to charge me for a 'scan'
 

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Update to post above:

FWIW -- I left the Battery Tender (BT) disconnected to see how much the AGM would discharge just sitting in the garage.

6/10: 12.68V

6/13: 12.63V

6/17: 12.62/3V

6/22: 12.61V
 


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BS 21 First Edition, never had an issue - mobile service came and changed my battery, (found a part to my air intake on my driveway and they came out and put that back on), within one week, charging service soon, sputtering, and went to an appointment, came out an hour later - DEAD. jumped, took it to a local place to test battery, rated bad replace. took to dealership, they said it didn't fail - finally gave me a new battery and will 'deal with it on the backend.' engine light on after message about shutting down features to conserve battery power, engine light has not gone off. seems the recall has done to my car the very thing it was supposed to fix and that I did not have an issue with. dealer wants to charge me for a 'scan'
So update, battery / engine light has been on since they 'replaced' the replacement battery, NOW emmissions failing warnings through fordpass. this service messed up my car and i am not happy. I have a feeling it could be due (maybe) to the intake which has to be removed when replacing the batter and it was not installed properly. when they originally did it i found a 'part' from the intake filter on my driveway. what in the world???? does anyone have any ideas, the service techs are not responding to me and it's just very odd -that this occurs when i never had an issue prior AT ALL. Also, maybe they didn't do some sort of battery management reset when the installation occurred -
 
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Make sure the battery cables are tightened snugly, including the cable off the negative terminal that connects to the fender.

Do the battery management system reset:

Battery Sensor Reset (Battery Management System (BMS) Reset):
When you install a new battery, reset the battery sensor by doing the following:
1. Switch ignition on, and leave the engine off.
CCNote: Complete Steps 2 & 3 within 10 seconds.
2. Flash the high beam headlamps five times, ending with the high beams off.
3. Press and release the brake pedal 3 times.
The battery warning lamp flashes 3 times to confirm that the reset is successful. (from one of DUDES posts Jan.7)

Like you said, they may not have done the reset at the dealer, but you can do them yourself with little effort. If your car still isn’t working properly, the dealer should make it right, as they installed the batteries. They may also have recall updates to the BMS that need to be performed, which should have been checked both times they replaced your battery. The mobile service people always seem to be in a hurry and may have skipped this step. The dealer can make sure everything is up to date.
 

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So, I thought I got lucky as my original battery in our '22 BL was literally dyeing the week I had the recall taken care of and received a new AGM battery as part of it. However, its been about 3 weeks since then and now I am regularly getting Charging System Service Soon warnings. Was driving back on a 600 mile trip yester and for about 45 minutes it was constant ever minute or so almost. Should I take it back to the dealer or do you think its something silly like a loose terminal?
 

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So, I thought I got lucky as my original battery in our '22 BL was literally dyeing the week I had the recall taken care of and received a new AGM battery as part of it. However, its been about 3 weeks since then and now I am regularly getting Charging System Service Soon warnings. Was driving back on a 600 mile trip yester and for about 45 minutes it was constant ever minute or so almost. Should I take it back to the dealer or do you think its something silly like a loose terminal?
Possible silly loose terminal or the new AGM Battery is defective

Even if the dealership didn’t run the Battery Management System (BMS) Reset procedure you have done plenty of driving

https://www.broncosportforum.com/forum/threads/major-electrical-issues.13036/post-215212
 

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I wasn't in the recall, but I'm getting my radar detector going "low battery" pretty quickly now when I put the car in accessory power with the factory EFB. Definitely going to have the battery tested again soon to see if it's on the fritz before I'm out of the 3 year bumper to bumper (at 2.25 years and just over 24K miles so not primed to hit 36K miles first).

I still think there's going to be more dead batteries within the bumper to bumper because of the earlier battery management systems that had their own software recall fixes...plus in general just how hard auto start/stop can be on state of charge (although I have an auto stop eliminator so less of a factor in my car.)
 


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I wasn't in the recall, but I'm getting my radar detector going "low battery" pretty quickly now when I put the car in accessory power with the factory EFB … I have an auto stop eliminator so less of a factor in my car
Perhaps obtain a voltmeter, the plug in 12V port voltmeter isn’t highly accurate but is convenient to check voltage trends, voltage while driving, and you can use your phone to record the voltage while starting the vehicle.

I posted about this before so more details in another post but monitoring the voltage drop after shutting off the vehicle then seeing the voltage next time prior to starting the vehicle will give you a heads up on looming battery failure.
 

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I've never had the slightest issue with the battery in my '21 Badlands. The auto stop/start has been working as it should right up until yesterday and I've never mentioned it here because I feared jinxing myself. Well, today my car is at the dealer because my rear diff is clunking on turns, acceleration and deceleration so I'm having them do the battery and BCM recalls while it's there. I haven't had any issues with my BSBL so I really hope these recall solutions don't open a can of worms like it has for some others here.
 
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My OE battery on my 22 BSBB (17,500 miles) was functioning fine. Not a hint of a problem but hell if Fords willing to upgrade me to a AGM for free i'll take it. l had them come to the house with Fords mobile sevice. Right in the driveway. Can of corn . 1/2 hr and it was done. That included the 15 min to reprogram the computer to tell it that theres a AGM battery in it instead of a water filled one. These newer cars are too much.
 

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My OE battery on my 22 BSBB (17,500 miles) was functioning fine. Not a hint of a problem but hell if Fords willing to upgrade me to a AGM for free i'll take it. l had them come to the house with Fords mobile sevice. Right in the driveway. Can of corn . 1/2 hr and it was done. That included the 15 min to reprogram the computer to tell it that theres a AGM battery in it instead of a water filled one. These newer cars are too much.
Same here -- absolutely no battery issues. But hey, free AGM -- why not?

One thing to keep in mind is that the type of failure Ford describes -- internal, bad welds -- could of course happen at any time, without warning, regardless of the battery's apparent condition.

BTW -- IIRC, almost all internal failures involved the batteries that were made in China (the other one used in the BS is made in America). Probably just a coincidence... :cool:
 

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Same here -- absolutely no battery issues. But hey, free AGM -- why not?

One thing to keep in mind is that the type of failure Ford describes -- internal, bad welds -- could of course happen at any time, without warning, regardless of the battery's apparent condition.

BTW -- IIRC, almost all internal failures involved the batteries that were made in China (the other one used in the BS is made in America). Probably just a coincidence... :cool:
Or not . :wink:
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