Daytime Running Lights on 2024 Ford Bronco Sport (Big Bend model)

[Bill G]

that's to bad its just not a option you guys down south could just turn on with forscan. I wonder why every Canadian model comes with the full deal and they separated it up in the US?

Because they can ? ?

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[jkernitzki]

Because they can ? ?

More like differing federal regulations on each side of the border.

 

[GoHack]

every bronco sport in Canada has this setup for daytime running lights.

Canada has required Daylight Running Lights for years, long before the US has.

It's not a bad idea, especially when driving in very rural areas.

I remember when they became required on motorcycles, which I wasn't too keen on, but after a while got use to them, plus it did make sense when riding since you will see the headlight long before the physical bike.
The same goes w/cars and trucks as well.

 

[Bill G]

More like differing federal regulations on each side of the border.

I agree with you, was being facetious, but seriously I don’t know why “they” (pretty much everyone) only does what they’re forced to by regulations. Why not just make ALL of them the same and provide a way for the owner to change the settings to suit their own needs. That way they’d satisfy all the regulators and most of the users all the time.

 

[jkernitzki]

I agree with you, was being facetious, but seriously I don’t know why “they” (pretty much everyone) only does what they’re forced to by regulations. Why not just make ALL of them the same and provide a way for the owner to change the settings to suit their own needs. That way they’d satisfy all the regulators and most of the users all the time.

Not only that, but cost of production would be lower with uniformity of build.

One of the big reasons cars are so expensive is too many trims and changing so much from trim to trim. Make ‘em one way and let us option what we want like it used to be.

 

[GoHack]

Not only that, but cost of production would be lower with uniformity of build.

One of the big reasons cars are so expensive is too many trims and changing so much from trim to trim. Make ‘em one way and let us option what we want like it used to be.

Now-a-days, there are simply too many needless bells and whistles that tend to make the vehicles cost more to purchase, as well as cost people later to fix when they eventually do fail.

Heck, you can barely even see where the physical engine is anymore in the engine compartment w/all the plumbing, and environmental controls on our engines now-a-days.

Even changing you own oil/oil filter has become a pain to do.

Then many of the engine parts are made of plastic, which over time, especially w/the heat, fail, and thus need replacing.

"EVERYTHING" is electric, from the windows, the four wheel drive system, to the emergency brake on my Bronco Sport, "ALL" ripe for failure. Nothing is really manual anymore.

Add to that, all the electronics.
The problem w/electronics vs. mechanical, when they go, they go, and become very expensive to replace, that's if the parts even exist anymore at some point in time in the future. Chances are, they will need to be replaced w/used parts.

You look at such cars like the Corvette for example, where not very many are even produced.
It's a virtual maze of electronics w/in it, including the entire dashboard. Just image in say 5, 10, or 15 years from now, finding parts for it. Once again, not a whole of them are being built.
Unlike say rebuilding a simple carburetor, your fuel injection system will simply be replaced w/either new parts, if even available, or w/used ones, which is already happening.

"What's wrong w/make it simple stupid?" ?

Just imagine a Ford Bronco Sport, say w/a simple manual transmission, manual windows, a simple AWD system like the Subarus have had for years, a simple entertainment system and/or Navigation, which could be plugged in, modular wise, at the dealership, if so wished for then or even later?
The auto makers could build cars at over half their existing prices, and still make a profit, especially w/less costly recalls needed due to their much simpler designs.

I still remember my 1985 Jeep CJ7 which was bone stock when I bought it new, other than having a fiberglass top as the only option.
It was a simple as could be, w/a carbureted I6 engine, 5 speed manual transmission, manual transfer case, manual locking hubs, manual steering, vacuum assisted brakes, and manual roll up windows. I don't remember if it even had A/C.
Because the engine was so simple, and oh very easy to find in the engine compartment ?, I got over 28 mpg w/it believe it or not, doing 70.
The only issue I ever had w/it was rust in the rear quarters due to the design. Once the rust started, no matter how well you cared for it, you couldn't stop it. ?

 

[Stircrazy]

Because they can ? ?

oh I realize that, but it financially doesn't make sense to have separate lights that look the same but function different. if they built the same light for all north American, then just had the different segments software switchable they could do what ever they wanted with one head light and lower production cost. in Canada they could have gotten away with just the bar, or just the horse shoe light up but they did both on all models but in the US they change with the models and the are actually different assembly's?

 

[jlg072155]

That is strange because they appear to be there. Just don't light up.

 

[Dude]

If you think about it, it does make sense these are different headlamp parts by trim level and by country

for simplicity I’ll ignore 2025 models, I’m also leaving out some variants like Heritage

USA ‘21-‘24 Base (when available), and Big Bend: non-signature headlamps

USA ‘21-‘24 Outerbanks and Badlands: signature headlamps

Canadian ‘21-‘24 all trims: signature headlamps

Why does it make sense to have specific parts and features for these?

1. USA Ford Marketing plays a big role here to define what features are needed to distinguish one trim from another. Signature headlamps were deemed by USA Ford Marketing to distinguish the higher end trims (USA Outerbanks and Badlands).

2. We already know the USA 1.5L models sell a lot more vehicles than the USA 2L models so there is a cost savings to be had by not offering signature headlamps everywhere. That translates to profit for Ford.

3. Canada has different laws which apply and has Canadian Ford Marketing to define what features are needed in Canada - thus all models come with signature headlamps.

There are other factors at work here - I only called out 3.

And yes if you were head of Ford Marketing you might make different choices for headlamps but you aren’t head of Ford Marketing or in a key management role at Ford.

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