More on the 2025 Bronco Sport

[bstn rnr]

I'll stick with my 21 Badlands. No interest in larger screen.

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[wessermgm]

I have a client that manages a Ford dealership. He said that one of the biggest items of customer interest is screen size. 8" doesn't cut anymore with the average consumer.

I don't care about the screen size, but I would like the wireless carplay that will come with Sync 4.

 

[Bronco II]

Having given my BS their due, I'm still weak on the reiliability of the twin turbo Fords. I've considered a Bronco, but don't completely trust the engines

Both engines in the full size Bronco are Ecoboost engines. If your buying Ford it's a 99% chance what ever you buy will have twin turbos.

 

[Mark S.]

If your buying Ford it's a 99% chance what ever you buy will have twin turbos.

That might be overstating it just a bit. All of Ford's small-displacement engines are turbocharged, but very few use more than one turbocharger.

 

[Banjor]

Both engines in the full size Bronco are Ecoboost engines. If your buying Ford it's a 99% chance what ever you buy will have twin turbos.

I think you mean twin scroll turbos. Which are better than single scroll turbos as far as having more low-end torque and a flatter torque curve that makes them feel more like a larger displacement non-turbo engine (less delay for spooling up the turbo).

The 2.0l in the Badlands is very reliable and has a great history if you ask me. The 1.5l 3-cylinder has a history of problems, not really with the motor but with the water pump and some other attached components. But your mileage may vary, as they say.

 

[Bronclahoma]

Both engines in the full size Bronco are Ecoboost engines. If your buying Ford it's a 99% chance what ever you buy will have twin turbos.

That's the reason I'm likely buying a Colorado ZR2. Makes the same torque as the Ranger Raptor with a 2.7L 4 cylinder turbo (430 lb-ft). This engine has been in full size trucks for a few years, so a proven engine.

 

[Kelvala]

I have a client that manages a Ford dealership. He said that one of the biggest items of customer interest is screen size. 8" doesn't cut anymore with the average consumer.

I don't care about the screen size, but I would like the wireless carplay that will come with Sync 4.

I've been using this since June. No complaints. By the time I am ready to go, its connected.

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[Bronclahoma]

My SYNC isn't working, so it wouldn't be much use to me. Although I like the idea. Ford MobilTech has been out once for the SYNC recall and didn't get it installed. Supposed to be back out in a day or two.

Two things that were mistakes by Ford in the BS introduction were installing lead acid batteries and not offering the current version of SYNC.

 

[BLUEOVALRACER]

That's the reason I'm likely buying a Colorado ZR2. Makes the same torque as the Ranger Raptor with a 2.7L 4 cylinder turbo (430 lb-ft). This engine has been in full size trucks for a few years, so a proven engine.

The Colorado ZR2 has a 310 Horsepower Turbo 4 Engine in it? And the Ranger Raptor is a TT 3.0 Eco Boost that makes 405 Horsepower.

 

[Bronclahoma]

The Colorado ZR2 has a 310 Horsepower Turbo 4 Engine in it? And the Ranger Raptor is a TT 3.0 Eco Boost that makes 405 Horsepower.

I'm aware of that, but horsepower only matters in racing. Torque matters on trails and Chevy gets the same as the Ranger Raptor with s smaller, less complex motor. I'm weak on Ford v-6 twin turbo engines.

 

[coopny]

I think it's overall an improvement. I'm neutral on the appearance of the front/back revamps. I think Sync4 + larger screen is good. I do not like HVAC controls on the screen instead of tactile buttons. I think the industry will eventually go back on this, but who knows. Consumers see Teslas and just want bigger and bigger screens, even when they get to the point of removing physical controls and harming usability.

360 degree cameras are a really nice feature I wish I had in my BS, but not enough to trade-in.

 

[KidWiff]

I think the screens are terrible for adjusting temp controls and radio. Dials and buttons (for me) take much less of my attention away from driving. Ideally, i guess reliable voice controls would be the most effective, however i'm not a big fan of being without a physical method of controlling some of the simple functions in the vehicle.

 

[wessermgm]

Having given my BS their due, I'm still weak on the reiliability of the twin turbo Fords.

Man, Ford has been doing just fine with the twin turbos in their F-150s since 2010. Both 3.5L and 2.7L are workhorse engines and especially with the 2.7L, quite reliable. Any bad press related to F-150 reliability of recent focuses on the hybrid platforms first couple of years (which were rough). The non-hybrid Ecoboosts are rock solid. So solid that literally everyone is duplicating it. Toyota ditched NA V-8s, now Ram has ditched NA V-8s. GM still hasn't but they promoting the hell out of their own TT I-4 half-ton. Both Toyota and Ram's launches have totally hit the skids. The 3.0L Hurricane has tons of issues of mis-firing cylinders. Toyota has basically had to recall their entire fleet of 3.5L TT V-6s for loss of power issues.

If your problem is TTs in general, then OK. But to say Ford is your issue in this arena, I would beg to differ. Ford basically invented this area and is doing it well. Ford's larger issues lie in the area of software related bugs, like Sync.

 

[Paradocks]

I find it interesting that my 2022 Tucson has a touch panel for all climate and radio controls, however the mid-cycle 2025 refresh of the car just went BACK to physical buttons. Probably due to customer demand. You listening, Ford?

In any event, I’m a set it and forget it type of guy when it comes to climate control. Pick a temperature and let the system figure it out. So Ford dropping physical buttons does not impact my buying decision.

 

[Car Guy Bill]

I think the screens are terrible for adjusting temp controls and radio. Dials and buttons (for me) take much less of my attention away from driving. Ideally, i guess reliable voice controls would be the most effective, however i'm not a big fan of being without a physical method of controlling some of the simple functions in the vehicle.

I am curious how often you adjust the temperature in your BS? I have 3 Fords (Mustang Escape and F150) with the controls in the screen and over the last year I do not think I have moved the temperature more then three times. I like 76 Deg across all of my Fords and they seem to be consistent. The Heated and Ventilated seats are easer to control on the screen because they are much higher in the line of sight for me. I do like to have a volume control even though 98% of the time I use the steering wheel controls but do use the Power Button in the knob. I do not like the Locking Diffs on the touch screen that the Ranger Raptor has I like the button the Bronco has.

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