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Yes, that is the MPC engine in your 2025.
Thanks. The dealer was trying to sell me a 2024 “curiosity” vehicle with 2500 miles. We all know the scam of “curiosity” vehicles. I said I read there were too many issues with the older model year engines and wanted a 2025 with the newer MPC engine after reading this forum. Also comes with Sync 4A

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Previous engines did not suffer from intake valve fouling. What "other" problems are you referring to?
https://lemonlawexperts.com/ford-ecoboost-lawsuit/
  • Overheating issues
  • Head gasket failure
  • Water pump problems
  • Engine knocking issue
  • Carbon buildup on intake valves
  • No lifters
  • Sluggish performance while EcoBoost is active
  • High risk of carbon build-up
  • Fuel pump-related problems
  • Turbo issues
  • Coolant leaks
  • Clogged fuel injectors
  • Burned out spark plugs and ignition coils
 
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https://lemonlawexperts.com/ford-ecoboost-lawsuit/
  • Overheating issues
  • Head gasket failure
  • Water pump problems
  • Engine knocking issue
  • Carbon buildup on intake valves
  • No lifters
  • Sluggish performance while EcoBoost is active
  • High risk of carbon build-up
  • Fuel pump-related problems
  • Turbo issues
  • Coolant leaks
  • Clogged fuel injectors
  • Burned out spark plugs and ignition coils
I'm not inclined to accept a law firm that specializes in suing car manufacturers as an authority. That said, just about every engine ever made has had problems in these areas. It's the frequency that matters. The only problems on that list that I've seen more than one post about here on the site is the water pump and coolant leaks, but I would consider these to be the same.
 

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I'm not inclined to accept a law firm that specializes in suing car manufacturers as an authority. That said, just about every engine ever made has had problems in these areas. It's the frequency that matters. The only problems on that list that I've seen more than one post about here on the site is the water pump and coolant leaks, but I would consider these to be the same.
I am hoping the 2025 MPC does it suffer from the problems Ford is currently facing recalls and several class action lawsuits. X-plan with an ultra low mileage lease. If it turns out to be reliable I can always buy it. Otherwise, I can walk away and get a new vehicle.
 


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Ford is currently facing recalls and several class action lawsuits.
It's true that Ford has issued several recalls for this vehicle and engine. So far as I know, the NHTSA is satisfied with all of them other than the one involving the drain tube for fuel leaks in the engine compartment. Some have speculated the root cause of that problem is faulty fuel injectors, but that has not yet been determined. It's entirely possible the NHTSA may find that to be the case. Other than that, all other engine-related recalls have been effective. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

To date, I'm not aware of a single 1.5L Dragon-related class-action lawsuit that has resulted in a court win or settlement. Again, someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

I believe you are allowing the inherent bias toward negative posts on forums like this to influence your opinion about these engines. There are literally millions of them in operation around the world. If there were actual widespread reliability issues we would know about it by now.
 

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It's true that Ford has issued several recalls for this vehicle and engine. So far as I know, the NHTSA is satisfied with all of them other than the one involving the drain tube for fuel leaks in the engine compartment. Some have speculated the root cause of that problem is faulty fuel injectors, but that has not yet been determined. It's entirely possible the NHTSA may find that to be the case. Other than that, all other engine-related recalls have been effective. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

To date, I'm not aware of a single 1.5L Dragon-related class-action lawsuit that has resulted in a court win or settlement. Again, someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

I believe you are allowing the inherent bias toward negative posts on forums like this to influence your opinion about these engines. There are literally millions of them in operation around the world. If there were actual widespread reliability issues we would know about it by now.
I genuinely appreciate the knowledge bank so graciously shared by Mark and the other experts. The Bronco Sport is my largest lump some payment and I want to enjoy it while the fear mongers are rattling nonsense.
 

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Same 1.5L MPC engine in the '24 Escape having problems.

Overheating issues results in replacing short block. (Multiple complaints on low mileage engines)

https://www.fordescape.org/threads/2023-ford-escape-1-5l-overheating.122821/page-6

Misfire problem and cylinder damage. (Documented TSB)

https://www.fordedgeforum.com/topic/33632-tsb-24-2384-2024-2025-nautilus-other-models-misfire-with-dtcs-p0301-p0302-p0303-andor-p0304-stored-in-the-pcm/#google_vignette

https://dot.report/bulletins/11010920

Defective engine oil cooler issues results in cooling mixed with oil system. (Documented TSB)

https://www.tsbsearch.com/Ford/23-2274

Some people on this form sound like shills who work for Ford, work for a dealer, or are lawyers representing Ford.
 
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Some people on this form sound like shills who work for Ford, work for a dealer, or are lawyers representing Ford.
Conversely, there are some people on the forum that that have nothing positive to add, just coming here to continually bash the product every chance they get. Cheers!
 


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Some people on this form sound like shills who work for Ford, work for a dealer, or are lawyers representing Ford.
Your links go to forums like this one, where the voices of those experiencing problems are amplified out of proportion to the actual numbers. All production products have issues. To evaluate claims of inherent design flaws requires looking at the big picture. Where is the data?
 

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I am very surprised to hear of all the recalls on Bronco Sports. I have a 1.5 liter 2023 Bronco Sport with 44500 miles on it. I have not had one single problem with my 1.5 liter engine. My engine has gone through numerous heat cycles and has yet to have a cracked fuel injector. The battery has not lost any ability to be charged fully. I have found my 2023 Bronco Sport to accelerate and still function as well as the first month I drove it. I get 35 miles per gallon. I figure I will have about 60000 miles on it by Fall . My Bronco Sport was one made that had a recall for leaky fuel injectors and battery charging issues. I have yet to take in the Bronco Sport for the recalls because I have no issues with it. Sometime I will reluctantly take it in for the recalls.
 
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I am very surprised to hear of all the recalls on Bronco Sports. I have a 1.5 liter 2023 Bronco Sport with 44500 miles on it. I have not had one single problem with my 1.5 liter engine. My engine has gone through numerous heat cycles and has yet to have a cracked fuel injector. The battery has not lost any ability to be charged fully. I have found my 2023 Bronco Sport to accelerate and still function as well as the first month I drove it. I get 35 miles per gallon. I figure I will have about 60000 miles on it by Fall . My Bronco Sport was one made that had a recall for leaky fuel injectors and battery charging issues. I have yet to take in the Bronco Sport for the recalls because I have no issues with it. Sometime I will reluctantly take it in for the recalls.
Similar here. My early 2022 has been flawless. I know it moans on occasion when backing up first thing in the morning. Well, so do I! It also has several recalls for the battery, the BCM update and now a seat belt buckle. Mine still starts fine after three years. It has the EFB so I’m hoping I get a new battery out of it but if not? Oh well.
 

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I am very surprised to hear of all the recalls on Bronco Sports. I have a 1.5 liter 2023 Bronco Sport with 44500 miles on it. I have not had one single problem with my 1.5 liter engine. My engine has gone through numerous heat cycles and has yet to have a cracked fuel injector. The battery has not lost any ability to be charged fully. I have found my 2023 Bronco Sport to accelerate and still function as well as the first month I drove it. I get 35 miles per gallon. I figure I will have about 60000 miles on it by Fall . My Bronco Sport was one made that had a recall for leaky fuel injectors and battery charging issues. I have yet to take in the Bronco Sport for the recalls because I have no issues with it. Sometime I will reluctantly take it in for the recalls.
as per usual I suspect they fixed issues before the 23 models were built. the only recall my 23 has had was the body control module. none of the others that you see commonly apply to mine.
 

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The water pump issue could affect ‘21-‘24 1.5L models as there are owners across all 4 model years which reported water pump failures (the rate of failure remains unknown).. whether this is due to engine casting sand, incomplete flushing of the cooling system to remove sand or to multiple bad water pump designs remains unknown. Good news is not all 1.5L vehicles have this issue.

Similar for the drain tube and PCM Programming to handle a potential fuel injector leak. Several fixes have been issued by Ford.

And the BCM/PCM Programming related to the charging system affects ‘21-‘24 model years for both 1.5L and 2L. What is interesting is that even some owners of the 2025 model year posted their vehicle was built at the factory with the EFB (not the AGM Battery).
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