Anyone install a tuning kit?

[ohiooutdoors]

It has changed since I first read about this from the Challenger forum. First, it was denied due to removed mufflers. In reading it now (update#2), the PCM was tampered with. I agree with cprcubed statement bolded above...he will loose, even if he removed the tune at anytime prior to the engine failure. This is why I'd personally steer clear of a tune unless the factory warranty has expired, as you would not make a claim for warranty work then.

If update#2 is correct, then the Magnuson-Moss-Warranty-Act may not apply, as most tunes change the timing, rev limiter, and air/fuel mixture above the factory recommended limits. At best, maybe Dodge will offer a reduced price offer. They (Dodge) will still have to prove the modification caused the failure though.

It depends…

So let’s say you have a tune on your car and that rod comes knocking. What cause failure? They pinpoint it to oil starved bearings well what caused the oil starvation? A faulty oil pump. Engine is under warranty if that can be proven.

I have a buddy with a brz that was boosted. Engine blew and it was a result of their valve spring recall. Subaru covered it

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[Mark S.]

I think most tunes are relatively safe and in my experience most engine failure is a result of the owner playing with the tube (if they are able to) I know in the srt world you would get a diablo and I’ve seen some people tinker with the can tune when they have no clue what the tune is doing.

The other error comes from the owner using shit fuel and going wot every chance they can.

I found that most tuners keep their base tunes pretty conservative at the end of the day they don’t want to deal with that pain in the ass customer who blew their engine.

The Mustang EcoBoost forum I used to frequent had a running poll for those who had suffered what they called "ecoboom." The last time I looked at it there were +40 reports of catastrophic engine failure, all but two of which occurred with engines using modified software. Whatever the cause engine failures with tuned engines, the OEM software provides the best protection from stupid owner tricks.

 

[sajohnson]

It depends…

So let’s say you have a tune on your car and that rod comes knocking. What cause failure? They pinpoint it to oil starved bearings well what caused the oil starvation? A faulty oil pump. Engine is under warranty if that can be proven.

I have a buddy with a brz that was boosted. Engine blew and it was a result of their valve spring recall. Subaru covered it

I'm surprised that Subaru did not latch onto the fact that it had been modified and deny coverage.

I had fuel literally spraying onto the engine in my WRX. It was clearly a mfr defect, a known issue, and they told me to pound sand. I had to really fight them to get the repair covered 100%.

Then it got so bad that the NHTSA had to force Subaru to issue a recall, 'cause gasoline and hot exhaust manifolds are not a good match. Even then, Subaru claimed that since the leak typically happened in cold weather (about 10*F and below) they should only have to repair vehicles that were registered in the northern states. Never mind that people have been known to drive from the south to the north, and sell cars that had been registered in the south to someone up north.

In short, Subaru fought it every step of the way -- and that was a serious issue, not something small.

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