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[rocks]

Ford is the only domestic badge you would buy.But the last couple pages all i see is you talking bad about them.Maybe you should buy another domestic badge and then go on those forums and do nothing but complain like you do on this one.

Oh yes, the typical forum fanboy. Ford is having plenty of QC issues. 4 years leading in recalls. The 1.5L engine blows compared to the 2..0L. Injector issues , turbos failing at 70K miles, electric charging system issues, water pumps, etc.
If I cause you to toss and turn all night with my posts, put me on ignore.

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[Cobrablues]

I keep looking at the NTSB website and no recalls on my BS because it was built outside the recall parameters. However, I expect to get one. Mine was built about a month before I bought in March 2023. I like my BS but when I was looking to buy I was only trying to lower my mpg which was a bit low on my Ranger. I do often think I should have done"due diligence" (a term my wife like to use). when purchasing and got the 2.0. However, I almost broke even with my trade in, so that was another factor that gave me incentive to buy the 1.5. As much as I wanted the Big Bronco the gas mileage sucks on those.

 

[coopny]

I have the 2.0L so not affected by this recall, but I agree with other posters that it makes absolutely no sense that Ford minimally did not put the software fix in on the newer vehicles, and now that two iterations of fuel injectors have leaked (and when they do, they leak in an area that is likely to start a fire) - yes, the ideal scenario is that fuel injectors never leak, but when you have such a problem and know if they do leak they will leak in an area that is likely to start a fire, the mitigation of the drain tray would still prevent a fire.

On the part of Ford's beancounters, I can get the argument of them thinking the problem was fixed so the extra expense of the drain tray was not justified, but it's completely baffling that they didn't implement the software fix in the newer vehicles that detects the drop in pressure and alerts the driver to the condition. Software updates are free, and alerting the driver when a leak starts to pull over and get the vehicle serviced reduces the chances of a fire occurring...

 

[Dude]

I keep looking at the NTSB website and no recalls on my BS because it was built outside the recall parameters. However, I expect to get one. Mine was built about a month before I bought in March 2023. I like my BS but when I was looking to buy I was only trying to lower my mpg which was a bit low on my Ranger. I do often think I should have done"due diligence" (a term my wife like to use). when purchasing and got the 2.0. However, I almost broke even with my trade in, so that was another factor that gave me incentive to buy the 1.5. As much as I wanted the Big Bronco the gas mileage sucks on those.

Your vehicle may have been built with the drain tube/PCM Programming and if so there would be no recall for that for you.

 

[Dude]

Software updates are free, and alerting the driver when a leak starts to pull over and get the vehicle serviced reduces the chances of a fire occurring...

We don’t know the factory procedures used to install the drain tube and PCM Programming.
There are situations at the factory where software updates are not free - there are too many conditions to list here why that can be the case especially when none of us know the actual procedures used.

I am not surprised that Ford made the decision not to install the drain tube and PCM Programming however we likely will never know the root cause of that decision. In hindsight, it does seem to have been misguided.

 

[Cobrablues]

Your vehicle may have been built with the drain tube/PCM Programming and if so there would be no recall for that for you.

That's what I have been thinking. I like my vehicle. I was a DITW Chevy truck owner for 90% of my life until I bought a Colorado. It was the little things tha GM knew not to do but did them anyway in manufacturing. So went to Ford and have stayed. Nothing is perfect.

 

[BLUEOVALRACER]

Oh yes, the typical forum fanboy. Ford is having plenty of QC issues. 4 years leading in recalls. The 1.5L engine blows compared to the 2..0L. Injector issues , turbos failing at 70K miles, electric charging system issues, water pumps, etc.
If I cause you to toss and turn all night with my posts, put me on ignore.

Fan Boy then that would make you the typical Forum complainer. So then go buy another brand and quit complaining all the time on this forum.That's all i see you do on here sorry if the truth hurts.I'm sure you keep a lot of guys up all night reading all of your complaints but you keep buying Fords.Not to mention you said "All auto manufactures are not having Injector issues" and Mark S proved you wrong by posting 7 links.

 

[Mark S.]

...and Mark S proved you wrong by posting 7 links.

To be fair, they were not all injector problems. Some were injector leaks, and the rest were links to fuel system issues which could result in a fire. The point being there's no such thing as a perfect component that never fails.

 

[rocks]

Fan Boy then that would make you the typical Forum complainer. So then go buy another brand and quit complaining all the time on this forum.That's all i see you do on here sorry if the truth hurts.I'm sure you keep a lot of guys up all night reading all of your complaints but you keep buying Fords.Not to mention you said "All auto manufactures are not having Injector issues" and Mark S proved you wrong by posting 7 links.

A forum compainer? Fanboy is a common term but 'forum complainer? Nah, never heard that one. Nothing you type hurts me. Fanboys are the ones who get hurt and all bent out of shape like you. As a so called complainer, I have a very good forum reaction score.
The bottom line is no matter how you spin it, the 1.5L blows when compared to the 2.0L and many here agree.
Again, if my certain posts bother you so much, there's the ignore feature.

 

[BLUEOVALRACER]

A forum compainer? Fanboy is a common term but 'forum complainer? Nah, never heard that one. Nothing you type hurts me. Fanboys are the ones who get hurt and all bent out of shape like you. As a so called complainer, I have a very good forum reaction score.
The bottom line is no matter how you spin it, the 1.5L blows when compared to the 2.0L and many here agree.
Again, if my certain posts bother you so much, there's the ignore feature.

Forum Complainer is all i see you do read some of your posts so many people would probably put you on ignore.But please answer my questions in case i decide to put you on ignore. So your 1.5 has had what problems that you have listed show up since you've owned it?So why does the 1.5 blow in your opinion?Sure everyone would like the 2.0 Eco Boost but many people on here have no problems with the 1.5 Eco Boost and like them and i'm sure get better mileage than the 2.0 Eco Boost gets.Someone on here posted he did a search on Auto Trader and 2,125 Big Bends 1,175 Outer Banks and 600 Badlands showed up so 3,300 Bronco Sports with the 1.5 Eco Boost compared to 600 with the 2.0 Eco Boost.So if more problems show up in the 1.5 Eco Boost compared to the 2.0 Eco Boost in the BS wouldn't that be expected?

 

[rocks]

Forum Complainer is all i see you do read some of your posts so many people would probably put you on ignore.But please answer my questions in case i decide to put you on ignore. So your 1.5 has had what problems that you have listed show up since you've owned it?So why does the 1.5 blow in your opinion?Sure everyone would like the 2.0 Eco Boost but many people on here have no problems with the 1.5 Eco Boost and like them and i'm sure get better mileage than the 2.0 Eco Boost gets.Someone on here posted he did a search on Auto Trader and 2,125 Big Bends 1,175 Outer Banks and 600 Badlands showed up so 3,300 Bronco Sports with the 1.5 Eco Boost compared to 600 with the 2.0 Eco Boost.So if more problems show up in the 1.5 Eco Boost compared to the 2.0 Eco Boost in the BS wouldn't that be expected?

Members here can put me on ignore. That's their prerogative.
The issue is not the many more 1.5s vs 2.0s. Other Ford products have the 2.0. I've had two Lincolns with the 2.0L. The 1.5 is less reliable and has a lot less power. 0-60 in just under 9 seconds and a weak passing gear is sad. I can actually live with that but the reliability scares me. The only advantage of the 1.5 is better MPGs. That's it. That may be most important for some. I will say the fact that Ford has an alleged fix for the 1.5 dying on the road is comforting.

If the OBX had a 2.0 option, it would be just about a perfect vehicle for me. Many here feel the same about a 2.0 in their BS. Choices are nice.
You may ask why I didn't just buy the BadLands model. Well, I like the more luxurious version models. I don't go off road. Not even on a dirt road. I prefer the softer ride of the non Badland model and I like a carpet in my vehicles but that's me. I can see why people go with a Badland too.

 

[BLUEOVALRACER]

Members here can put me on ignore. That's their prerogative.
The issue is not the many more 1.5s vs 2.0s. Other Ford products have the 2.0. I've had two Lincolns with the 2.0L. The 1.5 is less reliable and has a lot less power. 0-60 in just under 9 seconds and a weak passing gear is sad. I can actually live with that but the reliability scares me. The only advantage of the 1.5 is better MPGs. That's it. That may be most important for some. I will say the fact that Ford has an alleged fix for the 1.5 dying on the road is comforting.

If the OBX had a 2.0 option, it would be just about a perfect vehicle for me. Many here feel the same about a 2.0 in their BS. Choices are nice.
You may ask why I didn't just buy the BadLands model. Well, I like the more luxurious version models. I don't go off road. Not even on a dirt road. I prefer the softer ride of the non Badland model and I like a carpet in my vehicles but that's me. I can see why people go with a Badland too.

FWIW C/D did 8.2 Seconds 0-60 and 16.3@84 mph in the 1/4 mile with a 2021 Outer Banks Model.I agree about the 2.0 being an option in the Big Bend and Outer Banks i might have went that route.But with the Badlands base price being like 6 grand more than the Big Bend made it not affordable for me.And don't flame me for saying this but using the Pedal Max on my Big Bend with the 1.5 Eco Boost made it much more enjoyable to drive throttle response is greatly improved compared to how it was from the factory.

 

[hellb0y]

Members here can put me on ignore. That's their prerogative.
The issue is not the many more 1.5s vs 2.0s. Other Ford products have the 2.0. I've had two Lincolns with the 2.0L. The 1.5 is less reliable and has a lot less power. 0-60 in just under 9 seconds and a weak passing gear is sad. I can actually live with that but the reliability scares me. The only advantage of the 1.5 is better MPGs. That's it. That may be most important for some. I will say the fact that Ford has an alleged fix for the 1.5 dying on the road is comforting.

If the OBX had a 2.0 option, it would be just about a perfect vehicle for me. Many here feel the same about a 2.0 in their BS. Choices are nice.
You may ask why I didn't just buy the BadLands model. Well, I like the more luxurious version models. I don't go off road. Not even on a dirt road. I prefer the softer ride of the non Badland model and I like a carpet in my vehicles but that's me. I can see why people go with a Badland too.

I did everything in my power to stay away from the Eco-bomb 2.0…#coolantintrusion galore…

also read this, the 2.0 is hardly more reliable than the 1.5 Dragon. If you really want to say you own a reliable Ecoboost, you need the 2.3.

https://www.slashgear.com/1358832/every-ford-ecoboost-engine-ranked/

 

[Dude]

I did everything in my power to stay away from the Eco-bomb 2.0…#coolantintrusion galore…

also read this, the 2.0 is hardly more reliable than the 1.5 Dragon. If you really want to say you own a reliable Ecoboost, you need the 2.3.

https://www.slashgear.com/1358832/every-ford-ecoboost-engine-ranked/

Don’t see the same thing you are referring to… is it the “solved a lot (but not all) of the coolant intrusion issues”?

2.0L in Bronco Sport looks pretty reliable to me based on the article.

5. EcoBoost 2.0-liter Twin Scroll
Here’s the articles key takeaways for issues remaining in the EcoBoost 2.0-liter Twin Scroll:

solved a lot (but not all) of the coolant intrusion issues common in the first-gen 2.0-liter engine.

is known for its boost solenoid prematurely failing, resulting in a malfunctioning turbocharger, a check engine light, and a significant lack of power. Fortunately, it's a relatively easy — and inexpensive — DIY fix for you shade tree mechanics out there

 

[BLUEOVALRACER]

I did everything in my power to stay away from the Eco-bomb 2.0…#coolantintrusion galore…

also read this, the 2.0 is hardly more reliable than the 1.5 Dragon. If you really want to say you own a reliable Ecoboost, you need the 2.3.

https://www.slashgear.com/1358832/every-ford-ecoboost-engine-ranked/

FWIW the 1.5 Eco Boost is ranked in 6th Place on that List

Don’t see the same thing you are referring to… is it the “solved a lot (but not all) of the coolant intrusion issues”?

2.0L in Bronco Sport looks pretty reliable to me based on the article.

5. EcoBoost 2.0-liter Twin Scroll
Here’s the articles key takeaways for issues remaining in the EcoBoost 2.0-liter Twin Scroll:

solved a lot (but not all) of the coolant intrusion issues common in the first-gen 2.0-liter engine.

is known for its boost solenoid prematurely failing, resulting in a malfunctioning turbocharger, a check engine light, and a significant lack of power. Fortunately, it's a relatively easy — and inexpensive — DIY fix for you shade tree mechanics out there

And correct the 2.0 Eco Boost used in the Bronco Sport is ranked 5th so they're both ranked close in reliability.FWIW i think the 2.7 Eco Boost should have been 2nd on that list and the 3.5 Eco Boost 3rd as i've seen on the F-150 Forum a lot more issues with the 3.5 Eco Boost[Cam Phaser Problems] than the 2.7 Eco Boost.Not sure on the 2.3 Eco Boost being 1st but maybe they're.As they're used in the Mustang,Explorer,Ranger and some Lincoln Vehicles IIRC.Not sure of issues with the 3.0 Eco Boost as it's basically the same engine as the 2.7 Eco Boost except for the Engine block material and a little more displacement.Although that list says they have been very reliable.

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