Ford Recalling Bronco Sports and Escapes Due to Defective Rear Brake Pads

[Whitenight]

Lets see, take to dealer no loaner cars so someone has to pick you up drop you off, a lot of times incompetent mechanics fixing your car, might get scratch dent or stain in seat ect. Might have to take back again cause not fixed right ect ect ect. So anything I can fix myself I will fix. My plan is to avoid dealership monkeying with my vehicle if at all possible. My past experience with warranty work is complete incompetence and after several trips I fix it myself anyway.

Now how can you get recalled cleared if you fix yourself? Probably cant is my guess?

Unfortunately it means taking it to a dealership to have them verify that it was fixed. I had an issue with a Crankcase Position Sensor on my F350 that went bad and had my mechanic replace it. A little while later Ford issued a recall for defective CPS modules. I took my receipt to the local Ford dealership and they looked at the replacement part and the recall was cleared.

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[Whitenight]

Part #:JX6Z2200E

A check online showed the parts to available for just $64.

 

[Rgill]

Based on the production figures the Admin just posted and the number of BSs affected in recall, there appear to be a number of them that are not affected by the issue (somewhere around 60K that were produced).

Those not affected might have the Electric Brake Booster per the documents posted on the recall. Only those with Vacuum boosters are affected by the issue (see bottom pic).

So the question is, when do they put an electric brake booster in a Bronco Sport as the specs say the BS could have that instead of the Vacuum booster which is affected by the issue. Could it be those with tow packages that would have gotten the electric one?

 

[Deleted member 6350]

Lets see, take to dealer no loaner cars so someone has to pick you up drop you off, a lot of times incompetent mechanics fixing your car, might get scratch dent or stain in seat ect. Might have to take back again cause not fixed right ect ect ect. So anything I can fix myself I will fix. My plan is to avoid dealership monkeying with my vehicle if at all possible. My past experience with warranty work is complete incompetence and after several trips I fix it myself anyway.

Now how can you get recalled cleared if you fix yourself? Probably cant is my guess?

My sentiments Exactly
The last time I dropped off my SuperCrew for a Blown Air Condition Hose, the mechanic got that ac dye all over the drivers door, The Ford Dealer had to order me a brand new door panel because they couldn’t get the dye out. So do I really want to bring my Brand New Bronco Sport to the dealer for a recall, not a chance in hell !!!

 

[rdc17]

Based on the production figures the Admin just posted and the number of BSs affected in recall, there appear to be a number of them that are not affected by the issue (somewhere around 60K that were produced).

Those not affected might have the Electric Brake Booster per the documents posted on the recall. Only those with Vacuum boosters are affected by the issue (see bottom pic).

So the question is, when do they put an electric brake booster in a Bronco Sport as the specs say the BS could have that instead of the Vacuum booster which is affected by the issue. Could it be those with tow packages that would have gotten the electric one?

So do we know which models use what kind of brake booster?

Is it that Base/BB/OB use one and BL/FE use the other?

 

[Whitenight]

So do we know which models use what kind of brake booster?

Is it that Base/BB/OB use one and BL/FE use the other?

I tried doing some research on that question specifically and it states that the Electric Brake Booster could be installed on any of the models. However, it also states that it was installed as an option, so it is my guess that the electric one was used if you got the trailer towing package - JMHO.

 

[Beav1]

Since brakes and associated components are a safety issue I will probably at some point bring it in under warranty terms for an inspection. Even though I replaced the pads myself with Ford OEM parts. The pads I used were an updated part number however that does not necessarily mean they are within design specifications as it related to the recall. I was fixing a brake squeak not a brake performance issue. Sounds like there is brake booster issue associated with the not to spec pads.

 

[Whitenight]

So do we know which models use what kind of brake booster?

Is it that Base/BB/OB use one and BL/FE use the other?

My only other issue with this recall is that even if you have the electric brake booster, you still have the substandard pads on the vehicle. The only difference is that the electric brake booster is able to apply more pressure to the already substandard pads.

 

[Whitenight]

Since brakes and associated components are a safety issue I will probably at some point bring it in under warranty terms for an inspection. Even though I replaced the pads myself with Ford OEM parts. The pads I used were an updated part number however that does not necessarily mean they are within design specifications as it related to the recall. I was fixing a brake squeak not a brake performance issue. Sounds like there is brake booster issue associated with the not to spec pads.

I don't think it's so much of a brake booster problem as it is a brake pad problem. It seems that the electric brake booster is able to supply more pressure to the already substandard pads so that it isn't "as much" of a problem. I may be wrong, but that is how I interpreted the documentation. IMHO

 

[Ponyrider]

Due to my work schedule I just don't have time to get to the Ford dealer during normal business hours only to have them tell there's nothing wrong with your brake pads. Brake pads are cheap and easy. Took me less than hour to do both sides - and apparently better than factory as they didn't lube the pins! I like fixing things

My husband was right there as I backed out of the garage. Rear left brake squealed nice and loud. He has been itching to inspect/ replace the brake pads ever since. Then I went and told him about the lack of lube..... Guess I know what hubby will be doing this weekend.

 

[WinTech]

Has anyone plugged in their VIN on the NHTSA website yet? When the recall is announced, is the site updated to show the recalls? My VIN shows no current recalls.

 

[jhbass]

Probably explains the rear brake noise while reversing regardless of rain/humidity. The sound is always there ?‍??

Every. Damn. Day.

 

[Whitenight]

Has anyone plugged in their VIN on the NHTSA website yet? When the recall is announced, is the site updated to show the recalls? My VIN shows no current recalls.

According to the NHTSA report, Ford is still in the process of determining exactly which VIN numbers are affected. I called Ford and they stated that when that information is available it will be sent to the NHTSA and ETIS. At this point, Ford doesn't know exactly how many vehicles are involved only the date range that the effected vehicles were built in.

 

[Beav1]

I re read through the associated documents from NTSB over my lunch hour.

The way I'm interpreting is the issue of increased stopping distances with the out of spec pads is in the event of brake booster component failure.

Excerpted from one of the articles:

Description of Noncompliance : Description of the Noncompliance : : Some vehicles may be equipped with rear brake linings that have a friction coefficient that is outside of the specified tolerances. These vehicles are equipped with a brake vacuum booster without a vacuum sensor. The vacuum sensor compensated for variation in brake pad friction performance. FMVSS 1 : 135 - Light vehicle brake systems FMVSS 2 : NR

Description of the Safety Risk : If one of the affected vehicles experiences a booster malfunction, the customer may experience increased brake pedal forces and extended stopping distances beyond FMVSS 135 requirements, increasing the risk of a crash.

Description of the Cause : The brake system depends on a specified brake lining friction coefficient to achieve design intent stopping distances. A lower than specified brake lining friction coefficient could increase the stopping distances beyond FMVSS 135 requirements for “Brake Power Assist Unit Inoperative”.

So if your brake booster system is functional no worries however if you have a brake booster fail - loss of vacuum, etc (i.e. no power brakes) then you might experience out of compliance stopping distance.

That should make most people breath a little easier.

 

[brockdog12]

Probably explains the rear brake noise while reversing regardless of rain/humidity. The sound is always there ?‍??

My BB I traded off made a dragging noise when backing up I asked Ford about it, they had no answer.

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