50,000km and the transmission is cooked

[Sirwallace]

So torque convertor or transmission or both? Either way while not good at least you said it was covered under powertrain warranty.

How long do you plan on keeping your Bronco Sport? I would think replacing (I am assuming remanufactured) the transmission would be better for the long term. You might want to advocate for a replacement.

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From what I can tell online the Ford warranty on remanufactured transmissions is 3 years vs 2 years for dealer rebuilding the transmission.

I will find out hopefully on Saturday if it's just the torque converter or more. I kept my 2008 Ranger Sport 4x4 for 13 years and just did regular maintenance.

I am going to mention that I want a replacement instead of this one being rebuilt.

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[OBSASQ]

Anything mechanical can have a range of failure times based on many factors. If the average failure time is 90,000 miles then some will fail at 30,000 and some at 200,000. That's why they offer a warranty and an extended warranty. I'd say be glad for the Ford 5 year 60,000 mile powertrain warranty because it could be worse. Porsche only offers a 4 year, 50,000 mile warranty on their drivetrain and their cars cost a lot more than a BS. Hyundai has a powertrain of 10 years. If the main criteria is reduced cost risk buy a Hyundai. Or use my plan - I never keep a car past 5 years, most 3 years. Never had to pay for a repair in 57 years of owning cars.

 

[dockiwi57]

Anything mechanical can have a range of failure times based on many factors. If the average failure time is 90,000 miles then some will fail at 30,000 and some at 200,000. That's why they offer a warranty and an extended warranty. I'd say be glad for the Ford 5 year 60,000 mile powertrain warranty because it could be worse. Porsche only offers a 4 year, 50,000 mile warranty on their drivetrain and their cars cost a lot more than a BS. Hyundai has a powertrain of 10 years. If the main criteria is reduced cost risk buy a Hyundai. Or use my plan - I never keep a car past 5 years, most 3 years. Never had to pay for a repair in 57 years of owning cars.

Yes, it all comes down to risk tolerance.

Warranty insurance is expensive and might never be used. Seems better to take the $2-4,000 that would pay for a premium plan at purchase and set it aside in an account for the duration of ownership. If you own it for 3-5 years, you have a full or partial cushion for anything that might arise beyond powertrain. Essentially, self-insuring. Sell at 5 years, and you're better off in almost all cases, I would think.

Planning to spread the upfront cost over the life of a car loan doesn't make the cost less expensive, it's actually more in the long run. Just seems more "affordable." This is a challenging concept, that helps buoy banks. I'm not convinced that the current generation of cars will be 10 year 150,000 mile survivors. Inflation plays a role no matter how it's played on both positive and negative considerations.

 

[Stircrazy]

Yes, it all comes down to risk tolerance.

Warranty insurance is expensive and might never be used. Seems better to take the $2-4,000 that would pay for a premium plan at purchase and set it aside in an account for the duration of ownership. If you own it for 3-5 years, you have a full or partial cushion for anything that might arise beyond powertrain. Essentially, self-insuring. Sell at 5 years, and you're better off in almost all cases, I would think.

Planning to spread the upfront cost over the life of a car loan doesn't make the cost less expensive, it's actually more in the long run. Just seems more "affordable." This is a challenging concept, that helps buoy banks. I'm not convinced that the current generation of cars will be 10 year 150,000 mile survivors. Inflation plays a role no matter how it's played on both positive and negative considerations.

I have had extended warenty on everything I own for the same length as the loan term. I have never not had more than the value of the package in warenty repairs. plus I am getting factory ford parts, not jobber parts you get when you take it to "sam's auto" to strech that couple K you stashed away for repairs. my diesel truck for example, I think Ispent 4000.00 for an extended warenty for 7 years, I easily would have spent9 ot 10K out of my pocket for thoes same repairs if I had topay for it my self. could I have done them my self. some, maybe most, but then I have to factor in my time. I make 55 bucks an hour at work so thats what I value my time at. then there is also the loss of time to do other stuff on your days off, and so on.

this time my wife even made me get the service plan, and I was against it for the longest time, but then I foundout it coveres brakes and shocks also and did the cost vs, me not having to do brakes ever two years. I'll admidt I paid a lot for a 130000 mile service plan, and a 120000 mile factory extended warenty, but it wasn't that crazy when you broke it down and in the long run the serviceplan saves you money unless you do it your self. but like the wife said this is my commuting car (I commute 120 miles a day on high elavation mountian roads in a remote area) and it sure is nice not to have to spend a day hours every 2 or 3 months doing maintenance,or worring about if it breaks down how many miles I am going to put on my diesel. it breaks it goes to ford, they give me a loaner car to use while it is being fixed.

I can tell you that it gets twice the oil changes I would do, they calculat it at every 5K where the oil life monitor is showing it should last 10 to 12K and all other maintenace they do is by the extreem service guidlines. my car it replaced (2010 fusion) lasted me 10 years and 300000 miles with me doing basic maintenance and oil changes when ever the oil life monitor said it was at 1%, but that was a unicorn car, the only thing I had to spend on that on in the 10 years was a 40 buck perge control valve, other than brakes and that kind of normal every day service items.

having said that I have two daughters that I have to maintain their cars and my wife's will add to that once her service plan is done, and my truck. its nice not having to worry about working on my commuting vehicle.

 

[dockiwi57]

I have had extended warenty on everything I own for the same length as the loan term. I have never not had more than the value of the package in warenty repairs. plus I am getting factory ford parts, not jobber parts you get when you take it to "sam's auto" to strech that couple K you stashed away for repairs. my diesel truck for example, I think Ispent 4000.00 for an extended warenty for 7 years, I easily would have spent9 ot 10K out of my pocket for thoes same repairs if I had topay for it my self. could I have done them my self. some, maybe most, but then I have to factor in my time. I make 55 bucks an hour at work so thats what I value my time at. then there is also the loss of time to do other stuff on your days off, and so on.

this time my wife even made me get the service plan, and I was against it for the longest time, but then I foundout it coveres brakes and shocks also and did the cost vs, me not having to do brakes ever two years. I'll admidt I paid a lot for a 130000 mile service plan, and a 120000 mile factory extended warenty, but it wasn't that crazy when you broke it down and in the long run the serviceplan saves you money unless you do it your self. but like the wife said this is my commuting car (I commute 120 miles a day on high elavation mountian roads in a remote area) and it sure is nice not to have to spend a day hours every 2 or 3 months doing maintenance,or worring about if it breaks down how many miles I am going to put on my diesel. it breaks it goes to ford, they give me a loaner car to use while it is being fixed.

I can tell you that it gets twice the oil changes I would do, they calculat it at every 5K where the oil life monitor is showing it should last 10 to 12K and all other maintenace they do is by the extreem service guidlines. my car it replaced (2010 fusion) lasted me 10 years and 300000 miles with me doing basic maintenance and oil changes when ever the oil life monitor said it was at 1%, but that was a unicorn car, the only thing I had to spend on that on in the 10 years was a 40 buck perge control valve, other than brakes and that kind of normal every day service items.

having said that I have two daughters that I have to maintain their cars and my wife's will add to that once her service plan is done, and my truck. its nice not having to worry about working on my commuting vehicle.

Relieving worry has value on its own. Especially when the vehicle’s planned use is more than a decade.

 

[DWG]

I have taken out the 10 year/100,000 mile warranty on the BS and my 25 Escape. Bought them both online so got them both at the lowest price available. Actually happy that Ford offers warranties with that length of time and mileage, especially since I plan to keep my cars for at least a few years.

These days with Ford discontinuing models that I would have bought if available I do not want to worry about what might be available for a few years.

 

[iBookmaster]

Posts like this are scary for everybody but, just like when I was on a Mustang forum when I had one, people posted so many posts about ecoboom/blown engine and it scared me so much. I kept the Mustang for 7.5 years and 104,000 trouble free miles. It's like all cars, some have problems, some don't. Some have no problems, some have many problems. Driving habits and maintenance play a big part in all of it in my opinion.

 

[Dangerdangle]

Any ideas what a new water pump and/or torque converter would run with parts and labor?

 

[Stircrazy]

Relieving worry has value on its own. Especially when the vehicle’s planned use is more than a decade.

thats the key, I drive vheicles till they are no longer worth fixing or they are so old they don't have moderen features. I have a good relation ship with my ford dealer so just before the extended warenty on my truck expired, I had them go throught it an look for anything that could be aconcern in the near future and replace it while it was under warenty. they didn't find much to be honest as I had already had the trouble issues address with thoes motors. that truck is 12 years old now, and tobe honest I don't know if I'll ever replace it. it will just tow my 5th wheel and haul my truck camper around.

but if you are the person that trades in every 2 to 5 years then an extended warenty isn't worth it as you will be covered by the factory in most cases. I have even seen a few people just add extended warenties a month or two before the factory ends so they can still get the factory extended at a cheeper price than aftermarket because they decided to keep the vehicle long term. lots of ways to do it.

 

[dockiwi57]

thats the key, I drive vheicles till they are no longer worth fixing or they are so old they don't have moderen features. I have a good relation ship with my ford dealer so just before the extended warenty on my truck expired, I had them go throught it an look for anything that could be aconcern in the near future and replace it while it was under warenty. they didn't find much to be honest as I had already had the trouble issues address with thoes motors. that truck is 12 years old now, and tobe honest I don't know if I'll ever replace it. it will just tow my 5th wheel and haul my truck camper around.

but if you are the person that trades in every 2 to 5 years then an extended warenty isn't worth it as you will be covered by the factory in most cases. I have even seen a few people just add extended warenties a month or two before the factory ends so they can still get the factory extended at a cheeper price than aftermarket because they decided to keep the vehicle long term. lots of ways to do it.

Exactly. I've never owned a Ford and although the later BSBLs seem to have most of the kinks worked out, it is uninspiring to read about the quality issues (1.5L versions in particular). However, the BS is the only vehicle that checks all of my boxes at this point in my life. Nearing the end of 3 years of ownership, I may explore non-powertrain warranty options if I'm happy and keeping it. In my case, I see no reason to buy up front years before it's needed and I usually buy a new car about every 5 years. Different solutions for different settings.

 

[oharajoynr]

30k intervals for drain and fill at bare minimum. We did ours at 29k and 52k, very easy to do, runs perfectly, best way to prevent problems.

 

[Sirwallace]

30k intervals for drain and fill at bare minimum. We did ours at 29k and 52k, very easy to do, runs perfectly, best way to prevent problems.

Shouldn't have to do it unless you are driving it in the severe conditions listed in the manual.

 

[Ironman482]

30k intervals for drain and fill at bare minimum. We did ours at 29k and 52k, very easy to do, runs perfectly, best way to prevent problems.

Not so sure about easy. Not even a dip stick tube to refill ,from what I've read it's kind of a PIA to do if you don't have the right tools , I'm gonna let ford do mine at 30k ,even if it cost 280.00 ,if it ain't right it's on them , my 2023 BSBB is the 1st vehicle I've owned with a automatic transmission and I'm 70yrs old ,always do my own maintenance but I'm gonna pass on this one.

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