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Stealerships get paid to sling parts, not to diagnose. That’s how Ford corporate structured dealership reimbursements. You can blame Farley and the other C-Suite executives and BoD.
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Car Wizard Gets a '21 Bronco Sport to Repair
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This has nothing to do with the engines in this thread. The blocks were redesigned years ago to remedy the problem. Those were 4 cylinder engines.
This guy sees one BS & OMG they are all like that & he is mad ,so don't purchase one attitude . Oh my , the plastic clips & some tubing is one & done , oh my ! Welcome to new automobile manufacturing across the board .
All these smug YouTubers & not taking away this guy's abilities as a mechanic , but I can tell he is not used to working on new Vehicles .
We have no idea how this BS was maintained or not or any history about this BS , not to mention what he left out for show & tell .
Yes! That old coolant trough issue was applicable to a completely different engine. About the only thing the same between this 4 cylinder and the 3 cylinder Dragon used in the pre-MPC Bronco Sports is the open-deck design and the failure was coolant related.
Folks will have no problem finding content like this for Ford: they can find it with any manufacturer.
Yes, Mr. Car Wizard is "mad" - and he has reason to be. Is that what makes Bronco Sport owners so defensive, or is it the reasons WHY he is "mad" that bugs them?
I know from experience that Ford's electrical system hardware (like connectors, lugs, terminals, pins) are inferior several other automotive brands, and in general are even worse than Stellantis and Hyundai. Toyota and Honda systems are demonstrably superior.
Just because something is common doesn't make it OK. Just because we can "get used to it" doesn't make it OK. Just because "others do it" doesn't make it OK.
You ARE taking away this guy's "abilities as a mechanic." Whether or not a vehicle is new or not isn't the issue: the issues concern design, quality and reliability, and whether or not the problems as owners or potential buyers are deserving of our attention.
What I'm hearing here are Bronco Sport fans who are not so much troubled by the potential problems with design, quality and reliability, but the fact that anybody would actually bring these problems to light.
It's up to us to understand the pluses and minuses. Our trusted mechanics, engineers, techs, etc. can help us understand (as "smug" Mr. Car Wizard has done here) because we need to make important choices here. I have four Fords in my family (three of them new) and have owned many of them going back 50 years. I'm not being a hater - and neither is Mr. Car Wizard. If there is a course correction to be made it begins with our attitudes about these things.
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But he is a hater & pretty much Said so with "DON"T BUY ONE " .
You got it all wrong , I can speak for myself here only , that our BS has been pretty much trouble free , of course the RDU was replaced under warranty , but it didn't fail .
I'm only saying what is fair & what's not fair , you think what ever you want about the BS , most of us are happy with the BS , its people like him who have a business of making Videos & have a audience that may be guided by his false statements , yes false , because he has seen only one !
Do think Doctors see sick people , does that make all people sick ? Do you think auto mechanics see broken Vehicles , does that make all of them broken ?
How do we know this BS was not in an accident or over heated to cause a cracked Manifold or head . None of us know that ,but we at least keep an open mind about things we have no idea about the facts except what was in that Video , does he ?
Naw , they are all bad . I will not watch be another of his Videos & I'm sure thats ok with you .
You got it all wrong , I can speak for myself here only , that our BS has been pretty much trouble free , of course the RDU was replaced under warranty , but it didn't fail .
I'm only saying what is fair & what's not fair , you think what ever you want about the BS , most of us are happy with the BS , its people like him who have a business of making Videos & have a audience that may be guided by his false statements , yes false , because he has seen only one !
Do think Doctors see sick people , does that make all people sick ? Do you think auto mechanics see broken Vehicles , does that make all of them broken ?
How do we know this BS was not in an accident or over heated to cause a cracked Manifold or head . None of us know that ,but we at least keep an open mind about things we have no idea about the facts except what was in that Video , does he ?
Naw , they are all bad . I will not watch be another of his Videos & I'm sure thats ok with you .
There you go. He's a "hater". He can't be right because your Bronco Sport has been "pretty much trouble free" and (in spite of you "speaking for yourself") you assert "most of us are happy with our Bronco Sports."
>> Do you think auto mechanics see broken Vehicles , does that make all of them broken ?
You clearly haven't read my posts, where I said things like: "Nobody is saying that Bronco Sports cannot make it to, say, 200,000 miles."
>> How do we know this BS was not in an accident or over heated to cause a cracked Manifold or head
The exhaust manifold in the 1.5L Dragon engine is part of the turbocharger assembly. Re-watch the video: there was no crack suspected (and one was not found until AFTER the turbocharger was removed). There is no mention of the car overheating to either the dealer or Mr. Car Wizard. There was no mention of any codes thrown. A great deal of effort went into the circumstances leading up to the final analysis; any overheating event prior to the troubleshooting of the leaking/burning coolant logically would have come up. In fact, it was reported to have "ran fine". Moreover, if there was an "accident" there would have been obvious indicators. The turbocharger itself would have had to been crushed at the same time such a crack manifested itself. Again - watch the video: this was the original turbocharger.
I'm wasting my time here. I'm beginning to wonder if there really is a difference between the typical Bronco and Bronco Sport enthusiasts.
Shhh this will hurt the Sport reputation, Mr Wizard is legendary and well known by many…
There’s definitely lots of superlatives used along the way but that’s his style…honestly this unit was purchased via auction and we don’t know the history of its previous owner - did the engine overheat because of a bad water pump and the owner didn’t notice?! Did they overheat the engine towing 10k lbs?! Who knows…..?
Ford might need to think about a new name in 2028 lol
There’s definitely lots of superlatives used along the way but that’s his style…honestly this unit was purchased via auction and we don’t know the history of its previous owner - did the engine overheat because of a bad water pump and the owner didn’t notice?! Did they overheat the engine towing 10k lbs?! Who knows…..?
Ford might need to think about a new name in 2028 lol
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Or did the dealer the new owner purchased it from know it had problems and sold it as is no warranty, knowing full well the new owner would not notice until the paperwork was signed and driven off the lot. I would be tempted to take the selling dealer to court, but I’m sure they made him sign an arbitration clause. If it was the same dealer who said it needed a new rad and WP, that was likely their way to send the customer down the road. Regardless, the scumbag dealer(s) deserve to rot in hell for screwing over a military service member.