Ford Bronco Sport 1.5 Turbo Issues

[Powerz]

Metal found all in my oil filter, $8,000 hit for a new engine at 63,000 miles right after getting the turbo replaced. So 3,000 out of warranty and a new engine replacement, full turbo assembly etc after driving perfectly fine prior to the turbo replacement and immediately after until 15-30 miles later.

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[RDS40]

Yeah it was crazy $2,536 in labor.

I’ll post it when I get back home.

Turbo Charger assembly out the gate was around $475. Hoses, oil feed , clamps, etc added up

At the current rates, that's about 18 hours of labor.

 

[RSH]

12k is a bump.
When the original turbo failed I wonder if the engine ingested any metal fragments. Looking at your service invoices they did something with the coolant but not the oil and oil filter.
Obviously second guessing doesn't help things.

 

[Mark S.]

12k is a bump.
When the original turbo failed I wonder if the engine ingested any metal fragments. Looking at your service invoices they did something with the coolant but not the oil and oil filter.

Alternatively, something was wonky with the turbo installation causing it to disintegrate. Seems like it would be difficult for pieces of the turbine to make it all the way into the cylinders, but stranger things have happened.

Obviously second guessing doesn't help things.

True, but it's a fun mental exercise. We'll likely never know what happened.

 

[Powerz]

Alternatively, something was wonky with the turbo installation causing it to disintegrate. Seems like it would be difficult for pieces of the turbine to make it all the way into the cylinders, but stranger things have happened.


True, but it's a fun mental exercise. We'll likely never know what happened.

Got it back(just made them do a battery replacement), and the turbo is definitely shot again(which they did not tell me. They told me it was the engine, but on the service invoice noted it was the turbo shot again due to being starved oil. My oil was low when I picked it up which leads me to believe they just never added oil when running the new turbo or the oil feed to the turbo is clogged and killed off both turbos.

 

[Mark S.]

My oil was low when I picked it up which leads me to believe they just never added oil when running the new turbo or the oil feed to the turbo is clogged and killed off both turbos.

This popular YouTuber argues extended oil change intervals can lead to clogged oil screens in the lines feeding oil to the turbocharger. I have a lot of objections to his conclusion that the cause of the clogged screens is extended oil changes, but it's possible this (clogged screens) might be the cause of the problems with your turbocharger. This YouTuber suggests technicians often replace turbochargers without ALSO changing the oil screens.

 

[rocks]

This popular YouTuber argues extended oil change intervals can lead to clogged oil screens in the lines feeding oil to the turbocharger. I have a lot of objections to his conclusion that the cause of the clogged screens is extended oil changes, but it's possible this (clogged screens) might be the cause of the problems with your turbocharger. This YouTuber suggests technicians often replace turbochargers without ALSO changing the oil screens.

Interesting video. I never go by the oil monitors in my vehicles. I use 100% synthetic and go by mileage or time. Cheap insurance against turbo failure and other issues. Keeps those important screens cleaner.

 

[Mark S.]

I use 100% synthetic and go by mileage or time. Cheap insurance against turbo failure and other issues. Keeps those important screens cleaner.

"Cheap insurance" is often the argument for shorter oil service intervals. I find that to be short-sighted. The presenter in the video offered no evidence beyond opinion on what caused the clogs in the oil screens. Further, we have no way of know that the owner of the engine in question actually followed the manufacturer's recommendations regarding service interval.

All maintenance work carries the risk that it might be done improperly, leading to further problems. My son-in-law asked me to check an oil leak on his car. It was coming from the oil drain plug; the tech failed to replace the gasket. In addition, replacing oil that hasn't reached its useful life is environmentally unsound.

 

[rocks]

"Cheap insurance" is often the argument for shorter oil service intervals. I find that to be short-sighted. The presenter in the video offered no evidence beyond opinion on what caused the clogs in the oil screens. Further, we have no way of know that the owner of the engine in question actually followed the manufacturer's recommendations regarding service interval.

All maintenance work carries the risk that it might be done improperly, leading to further problems. My son-in-law asked me to check an oil leak on his car. It was coming from the oil drain plug; the tech failed to replace the gasket. In addition, replacing oil that hasn't reached its useful life is environmentally unsound.

Opinions are like...we all have them.
Shorter change intervals does not hurt the engine and can't only help. The cost is worth it. Especially if you do your own changes. You have a tiny 1.5L working hard moving a 3500 lb vehicle. Ford even went to a bigger capacity to show how important oil lubrication is. More capacity and the oil stays cleaner a little longer which keep the additives working. I still will go 5K miles or a year on full synthetic.
I changed the oil in the BS with 100% synthetic at 2K miles.

 

[Jemeryclifford]

Hey Everyone,

I’ve had a hell of a past two months with my bronco sport. My Bronco Sport 1.5 is at 63k miles so just out of warranty…

The day before thanksgiving my Bronco sport went into limp mode and dropped a p0299 code. Pulled over and got the car home. They started working on it Dec2nd,It was determined to have a blown turbo, turbo turbine was found inside my catalytic converter. Car got a brand new turbo assembly, all new hoses clamps, etc. picked it up back up on Thursday, they had driven it four miles and the check engine light was off and it was all good to go $4100 later.

I picked the car up, drove it home 10 miles and parked it without an issue. Didn’t drive it again until yesterday when my daughter had an urgent care visit need. Started up, got about 10-15 miles down and the same P0299 code popped, car went limp and my oil pressure light lit up temporarily. Service engine then immediately popped up as well. Turned back around and parked it again.

Car now can’t get seen until Wednesday, we’re now down to one car for Christmas which sucks.

Anyone had any experience like this? Also should I be fronting out for additional repairs or should the dealership/service center since they had done an inspection and diagnosis on the vehicle? I’m kind of afraid the repair didn’t take care of the issue and now potentially the engine was blown due to the misdiagnosis and repair.

For Ford's sake I really hope that not all the turbo's seize up around the 65-75 k mark! That will not be good. I hope they can help in some form or fashion, This is the exact opposite of why I even bought a newer car.

 

[Powerz]

For Ford's sake I really hope that not all the turbo's seize up around the 65-75 k mark! That will not be good. I hope they can help in some form or fashion, This is the exact opposite of why I even bought a newer car.

Yeah and I quote "It's a wearable part and we expect these to need to be replaced around 60k-75k miles" yet there are 0 inspections of it included as part of the maintenance schedule.

Also their support has been horrific. I'm absolutely livid still, that there's basically a dead vehicle sitting in my lot right now for the next 2 months until I can afford to repair and immediately sell it....


Ford Customer service reached out to me here, told me they escalated it to the corporate team.

Here was the response:

"
Hello,

After completing my research, I have to advise you that the vehicle is outside any applicable warranty, recalls, or other programs. As such, I am unable to assist with repair costs; however, I encourage you to have the repair performed at your Ford Dealer, as we offer a two-year, unlimited-mile Service Parts Warranty.

"

Here was my reply:

"
Hello .

Just to summarize as I’m unsure how much was communicated with you. My vehicle had a check engine light pop up.

I took it to an authorized ford service center, they diagnosed it as a blown turbo. They replaced my turbo, they did not check the oil etc even though it's marked they did a full 55 point inspection. I paid $4200 to replace said turbo for labor, parts, etc. they said and is documented that the vehicle drove perfectly fine.

I then drove the vehicle home 10 miles had no issues. Parked the car, and didn't drive it for a day. Came out to the car 2 days later to take my daughter to urgent care, 15 miles down the road max. The turbo went again and a low oil pressure light popped up.

I then got the vehicle home, called my service center who stated they could get it in after the new year. Went to start the car the day of it going to the service center, and it was completely dead, unjumpable etc.

Had it towed to the service center who told me it now needed the turbo replaced again and the engine replaced as metal was discovered in my oil filter. I was quoted $8,000 which included a new turbo cost and an engine. They were unable to tell me if the metal came from the turbo being damaged or not. The vehicle was then taken home after I had them replace the battery. The brakes are now locked up etc meaning the brake booster was most likely damaged during the battery replacement since it sits right behind the battery.


This seems to be that these parts (the turbo) replaced would be part of that 2 year warranty, and potentially the turbo replacement either being a partial misdiagnosis or causing additional damage to my engine should make it liable for repair since the damage could've occurred post turbo replacement.

Having said that, I would hope that this repair would be substantially discounted to cover said liabilities and warranty, entirely covered, or I would at minimum like a refund of the turbo replacement I had as that's $4200+ I could put towards repairing the car or getting it paid off and getting rid of it.

"

They've now not responded to me in over 2 months.....


The vehicle literally had the turbo replaced at a ford dealership and authorized service center. Thus it should be covered by their service warranty, yet they are not honoring such lol.

 

[Jemeryclifford]

Yeah and I quote "It's a wearable part and we expect these to need to be replaced around 60k-75k miles" yet there are 0 inspections of it included as part of the maintenance schedule.

Also their support has been horrific. I'm absolutely livid still, that there's basically a dead vehicle sitting in my lot right now for the next 2 months until I can afford to repair and immediately sell it....


Ford Customer service reached out to me here, told me they escalated it to the corporate team.

Here was the response:

"
Hello,

After completing my research, I have to advise you that the vehicle is outside any applicable warranty, recalls, or other programs. As such, I am unable to assist with repair costs; however, I encourage you to have the repair performed at your Ford Dealer, as we offer a two-year, unlimited-mile Service Parts Warranty.

"

Here was my reply:

"
Hello .

Just to summarize as I’m unsure how much was communicated with you. My vehicle had a check engine light pop up.

I took it to an authorized ford service center, they diagnosed it as a blown turbo. They replaced my turbo, they did not check the oil etc even though it's marked they did a full 55 point inspection. I paid $4200 to replace said turbo for labor, parts, etc. they said and is documented that the vehicle drove perfectly fine.

I then drove the vehicle home 10 miles had no issues. Parked the car, and didn't drive it for a day. Came out to the car 2 days later to take my daughter to urgent care, 15 miles down the road max. The turbo went again and a low oil pressure light popped up.

I then got the vehicle home, called my service center who stated they could get it in after the new year. Went to start the car the day of it going to the service center, and it was completely dead, unjumpable etc.

Had it towed to the service center who told me it now needed the turbo replaced again and the engine replaced as metal was discovered in my oil filter. I was quoted $8,000 which included a new turbo cost and an engine. They were unable to tell me if the metal came from the turbo being damaged or not. The vehicle was then taken home after I had them replace the battery. The brakes are now locked up etc meaning the brake booster was most likely damaged during the battery replacement since it sits right behind the battery.


This seems to be that these parts (the turbo) replaced would be part of that 2 year warranty, and potentially the turbo replacement either being a partial misdiagnosis or causing additional damage to my engine should make it liable for repair since the damage could've occurred post turbo replacement.

Having said that, I would hope that this repair would be substantially discounted to cover said liabilities and warranty, entirely covered, or I would at minimum like a refund of the turbo replacement I had as that's $4200+ I could put towards repairing the car or getting it paid off and getting rid of it.

"

They've now not responded to me in over 2 months.....


The vehicle literally had the turbo replaced at a ford dealership and authorized service center. Thus it should be covered by their service warranty, yet they are not honoring such lol.

I am definitely in the same boat, maybe we are the pioneers into the 60-70k mile frontier for the turbos. Warranty or not, the turbo failing and destroying the entire engine is not common in the world we drive in. they think my prop seized and the oil built up till it blew out.
I have owned this BS for only 6 months and I am being given numbers like 12k to repair.
This will be the end of the BS models if the turbos start fai;ling like this.

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