Bronco Sport, a Magnet for Auto Theft?

[Meanderthal]

I'm guessing Ford did away with the keypad since the fob automatically unlocks the door once you touch a doorhandle? (i'm assuming all BS get the fob and this auto unlock feature). One more way to cut a few bucks from production costs and send it to the UAW. Who knows, maybe they'll do away with locks altogether in the 2025 production cycle

As for stealing a BS.... while i love my BS in Heritage trim, if i were a car thief, i'd probably go for something a bit more "big-ticket" than a BS... Especially if i knew there was the distinct possibility of me being a desperado rolling in a 3-banger!!

Just saying....Pickups, tuner-cars and high end sports cars & SUV's is where the glory is for most of these guys. We just had some local ne'er-do-wells waltz into a garage a couple towns over and drive off with an Aston Martin - now THAT is car theft!! (they were arrested a few days later and a chop-shop one of the guys ran was shut down. So, as the saying goes, "crime never pays")

I believe the statistics support car thieves focusing on two types of vehicles. First is high volume vehicles that are inconspicuous and easy to sell or part out. Second are highly sought after vehicles, usually in other countries (primarily Mexico or South/Central America). I'm sure that high dollar cars get stolen here and there, but there has to be a market for them or a channel for the thieves to move them through.

Right now there are a lot of Kia and Hyundai vehicles being stolen because they are easy to steal and in general it is not really professional thieves doing it, but amateurs that saw the YouTube videos. A few years ago it was Honda Accords or Toyota Camrys because they were so prevalent and easy to part out.

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[Bucko]

Just saw on the news this morning that Target is closing 6 stores due to shoplifting.

When will something (I.E. tougher laws) be done to stop this? If an employee steps in and stops them, they get fired due to the stores insurance laws not wanting anyone to get hurt and sue the store.

The thieves are winning.

 

[TRWXXA]

Just saw on the news this morning that Target is closing 6 stores due to shoplifting.

When will something (I.E. tougher laws) be done to stop this? If an employee steps in and stops them, they get fired due to the stores insurance laws not wanting anyone to get hurt and sue the store.

The thieves are winning.

We have the laws. The problem is they are not being enforced. And when they are being enforced, the criminals are being turned loose, with no bond or fear of punishment, so they can continue their predatory ways.

 

[Bronclahoma]

Just saw on the news this morning that Target is closing 6 stores due to shoplifting.

When will something (I.E. tougher laws) be done to stop this? If an employee steps in and stops them, they get fired due to the stores insurance laws not wanting anyone to get hurt and sue the store.

The thieves are winning.

The thieves are winning in liberal states. Try that in the heartland and you go to jail or worse get some instant on the spot justice. Jeez! I sound like Jason Aldean. Hope I don't get in trouble.

 

[Barry S.]

Just saw on the news this morning that Target is closing 6 stores due to shoplifting.

When will something (I.E. tougher laws) be done to stop this? If an employee steps in and stops them, they get fired due to the stores insurance laws not wanting anyone to get hurt and sue the store.

The thieves are winning.

When I was a kid growing up in the 50's, whenever there was a natural disaster, signs went up saying "Looters will be shot." And they were. Bottom line....looting was practically nonexistent.

 

[Bucko]

When I was a kid growing up in the 50's, whenever there was a natural disaster, signs went up saying "Looters will be shot." And they were. Bottom line....looting was practically nonexistent.

I recall those. Currently our Florida governor announced during our last hurricane that Florida has a stand your ground policy, and now an owner of a gun (in Florida) no longer has to have a concealed weapons' license; he warned looters that this law will be upheld, and looters will be shot by those protecting their property.

 

[Martinjv71]

On the other hand, locking the car will encourage smash-and-grab thieves to break a window. Some places I've visited you're better off taking all your valuables inside with you and leaving the car unlocked, even with the windows down if you know it's not going to rain. If they're after your car it won't matter leaving the windows down; if the windows are up and they want your car bad enough they'll simply break the window.

On the other hand, locking the car will discourage more than not.....not to mention windows up much better in the rain....... SMH......

 

[Martinjv71]

I recall those. Currently our Florida governor announced during our last hurricane that Florida has a stand your ground policy, and now an owner of a gun (in Florida) no longer has to have a concealed weapons' license; he warned looters that this law will be upheld, and looters will be shot by those protecting their property.

AMEN!!!!!!!

 

[Bronclahoma]

When I was a kid growing up in the 50's, whenever there was a natural disaster, signs went up saying "Looters will be shot." And they were. Bottom line....looting was practically nonexistent.

And up into the 80's police were allowed to shoot fleeing felons. When they announced "Stop or I'll shoot!" felons stopped. Or didn't run at all.

 

[Mark S.]

And up into the 80's police were allowed to shoot fleeing felons. When they announced "Stop or I'll shoot!" felons stopped. Or didn't run at all.

The only problem with that is they are not actually felons until they’re charged and convicted.

 

[Dude]

The only problem with that is they are not actually felons until they’re charged and convicted.

Thus the popular phrase “close enough for government work”

 

[Barry S.]

The only problem with that is they are not actually felons until they’re charged and convicted.

It's actually apples and oranges. I teach the course on Laws Governing Use of Deadly Force in North Carolina. The first requirement is to reasonably believe that you are in imminent fear of death, serious bodily harm or sexual assault.
Laws from the 50's regarding looting have definitely relaxed although in most states the Castle Doctrine might apply which states that deadly force can be used against someone forcibly and illegally entering your 'domicile' which includes home, place of business, automobile, tent, etc. Once they are retreating, even with your property, you can use force to stop them, but not deadly force (aka firearm.) Texas is the only state that allows use of deadly force in defense of property. I'm not an attorney but I wonder if a business could hire armed security to be located inside the store who could use deadly force against anyone breaking windows and doors and forcibly entering. Got to check that out with one of my legal gurus. If law enforcement actually witnesses a crime, the perpetrator is,in fact, a felon but, unless he represents a deadly threat and is running away, deadly force is not justified. That's where fur bullets, like K9 officers, come in handy.

 

[Mark S.]

If law enforcement actually witnesses a crime, the perpetrator is,in fact, a felon but, unless he represents a deadly threat and is running away, deadly force is not justified. That's where fur bullets, like K9 officers, come in handy.

Ask your gurus about this too. Witnessing a crime doesn't provide authority to declare the perpetrator guilty of a crime--noy even law enforcement. Only a court can do that. Witnessing a crime grants an LEO greater authority as regards the violation of individual civil rights, but it doesn't grant authority to ignore the doctrine of innocent until proven guilty.

 

[Barry S.]

Ask your gurus about this too. Witnessing a crime doesn't provide authority to declare the perpetrator guilty of a crime--noy even law enforcement. Only a court can do that. Witnessing a crime grants an LEO greater authority as regards the violation of individual civil rights, but it doesn't grant authority to ignore the doctrine of innocent until proven guilty.

You're right. It gives the police and D.A. the ability to charge (indict). Only at trial can he be convicted.

 

[Barry S.]

You're right. It gives the police and D.A. the ability to charge (indict). Only at trial can he be convicted.

On second thought, in most major cities, the police may arrest but the DA doesn’t indict. Not to mention the insanity of no cash bail.

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