Mele Kalikimaka from Hawaii Island

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Mele Kalikimaka (Merry Christmas) from Hawaii Island!

Took my new Bronco Sport Badlands with its Holiday Regalia up to Mauna Kea (13,803 feet) for the Holidays. Hiked to Lake Waiau (6th highest lake in the U.S. At 13,020 feet, and a sacred site) and drove to the top and parked in front of the University of Hawaii 88-inch telescope in the background. (Also make sure you have at least half a tank of gas, otherwise they may stop you from going up.) It was beautiful day with some snow on the ground and Haleakala (10,023 feet) on Maui visible in the distance.

Always a fun drive, be sure to acclimate at the visitor center for at least an hour before heading up. It’s a good place to have a bite if you brought it (there are picnic tables), make a pit stop (no public bathrooms or water on the summit) and refill your canteens. The rangers will give you a quick briefing, and make sure you engage your 4 wheel drive and lock the rear differential before heading up. The drive is deceptively steep, the off-road meter reads a 9-10% incline at multiple occasions. The Bronco Sport Badlands has zero issues making to the top, with little struggle and no difficulties.

Coming down is a different matter. The rangers are very strict about their instructions, and there will be a brake temperature check at the visitor station when you return, so don’t ride your brakes. My brakes were 151 degrees and the rangers gave me an “A+” grade; if your brakes are too hot, you will be instructed to park at the visit or center until they cool down.

The reason for this are a few years ago, prior to the pandemic, there was a serious accident where a young driver in an early model Toyota Tacoma (which is a more than capable truck) burned out their brakes and went over a ravine…and unfortunately had passengers riding in the bed of the truck. One of the young people died, and the other five had minor to very serious injuries. Accidents happen all the time on Mauna Kea, however, that was the first one with a fatality for awhile.

You will need to engine brake on the way down from the summit, and this is one of the times that not having a mechanical low gear box can be an issue. I don’t think you can use trail control (I didn’t) because it engages the brakes, which can be a problem. I put it in first gear manual, but no matter what you do, once the engine hits around 5,000 rpms or so it will automatically shift to second…and then to third, and fourth. Once you hit the 9-10% slope you will hit 45 mph in almost no time, and have to engage the brakes. I decided if I was going to have to use the brakes, I might as well come to a complete stop. (There was nobody behind me.) Once the car came to a complete stop, I would drop down to first great and start again. I think I had to do this about 4 times before I got down to the visitor station, where I got the my “A+” Grade.

For those of us fortunate to live on the Big Island, the trip to the summit is always a fun and joyful occasion, I can’t remember ever not having a great time there, sightseeing and hiking, and I have been fortunate enough to never have gotten altitude sickness…although once one of my passengers did, and the only way to fix it is to immediately drive down to a lower altitude, so make sure you know what symptoms to look for. For those that visit, it is a privilege. Just remember that it is truly a sacred place, do not go off trial either hiking or in your vehicle, and to respect the land, and the people.

Mele Kalikimaka and Hauʻoli Makahiki Hou!
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Merry Christmas to you too!
The Bronco Sport Badlands has zero issues making to the top, with little struggle and no difficulties.
I also noticed how well the BS handled 8% switchback turns on dirt when I was in NC. Not one wheel slip.
burned out their brakes and went over a ravine
To be honest, it ALWAYS dawns on me when mountain driving ... just how much brakes are SUPER CRITICAL. The only thing that is stopping YOU, momentum, and the edge of a cliff, is pressurized hydraulic fluid forcing a mechanical "clamp down" effect on your wheels. All that lost kinetic energy then dissipated into heat. Its something that we basically take for granted, and probably has some super low failure rate ... but still.


I used cruise control A LOT when in NC. Anything up to a 3% decline, and the cruise control can handle it. 4% and it starts to SLOWLY tick up speed. But it helps in keeping your brakes fresher so your just not 'riding it' all the way down the mountain, like you mentioned. But this would be more road driving, I suppose since cruise control must at least 20mph.


Thank you for the write up, but PLEASE. Some pics, sir. :)
 

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Bronco Sport Badlands …. “I decided if I was going to have to use the brakes, I might as well come to a complete stop. Once the car came to a complete stop, I would drop down to first great and start again. I think I had to do this about 4 times before I got down to the visitor station, where I got the my “A+” Grade.”
What are your thoughts on how you would have made the same drive down with traffic behind you preventing those complete stops?

Do you think it’s doable to get an A+ with traffic behind you the entire way?

And Mele Kalikimaka from Arizona .. bring your Bronco here or to Colorado… many steep downhill drives and pretty scenery for more fun!
 
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This is the first thread I have posted anywhere, so actually there are TWO threads, one with the photos, and one without (since I didn’t know what I am doing.)

Here they are, with a couple of bonus photos of my Bronco Sport with its Holiday Regalia. One phot doesn’t have the antlers, b/c they fell off when I was speaking to the rangers and lowered my windows...forgot to add them until after the hike. I took a lot of pics of Lake Waiau b/c my sister now lives on the mainland and never made the trek. I also took a lot of photos of the Bronco Sport b/c its new, had the holiday gear, and my wife wanted a lot of pics since she will be the primary driver.

Next time, I will take more pics of the Mauna, as it is truly a sacred and wonderful place.

To answer some Qs, I have driven to the top of Mauna Kea many times, usually in a borrowed vehicle (old boss’ Nissan Pathfinder, or business partner’s Toyota Tundra, and once before they got strict, in my old 2WD Ranger, which had a very difficult time going up, but no problems going down with engine breaking) or as a passenger. Coming down, I had it in 4WD manual, and tried to use the paddle shifters to keep it in lower gear, but as explained before, once the RPMs get around 5,000 + the engine shifts to next gear no matter what I did, sometimes very rapidly transition from 1st through 4th and hitting around 45 mph. Originally, I tried to slow it down to 20-25 mph and downshift, and it didn’t work…maybe I would get it into 2nd for a split second and it would cycle back up to 4th. Then I tried going down to about 10-15 mph, where the same thing would happen and that’s why I decided to come to a complete stop. (Why not, if I had to use the brakes, figured might as well.).

If I had someone behind me, I would have continued to tap the brakes down to 20-25 mph, especially before the turns. Not quite riding them, but I probably would have been on my brakes 15-25% of the time. I think I still would have had a “passing grade” on the bottoms, but it would definitely be hotter than 151 degrees. (If you wanted to ”cheat”, before you get to the ranger station you could pull off to the side and let the brakes cool off for a bit, as it levels out and there is another parking lot for the astronomer and support staff housing about 800 yards away. (Many of the astronomers and support staff at the mountain work a five day on, five day off schedule and sleep at the housing area to stay acclimated at 9,200 feet.))

If anyone had any suggestions on how to better engine brake on the Bronco Sport, I would love the input.

I hope everyone and their families have a wonderful Mele Kalikimaka. :)
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Great pics and very good advice!
What sort of work do you do up there?
I’m assuming astronomy or engineering liaison for the dish antennas. Just a guess.
 


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Spent Christmas in Waikiki a couple of years ago, it was so fun I would really like to do it again, running around in shorts, flip flops and a t-shirt, it was 80 degree paradise. Mele Kalikimaka to you.
 

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Spent Christmas in Waikiki a couple of years ago, it was so fun I would really like to do it again, running around in shorts, flip flops and a t-shirt, it was 80 degree paradise. Mele Kalikimaka to you.
 

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Great post Mele. I have had my badlands 18 months now 37000 mi. 75% on rod 25% offroad. I know exactly what you are talking about on engine braking. I have found that if you can downshift to 2nd it will hold. But still too fast. Putting it in sand mode will increase the rpms before upshifting. I sill have no answer to how to hold it in first gear, i hope somebody can find an answer.
 
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1) Dude, not smart enough to be an astronomer or work on the Mauna, just a fan of Mauna Kea, Astronomy and Hawaiian, and fortunate to know people who have worked up there in the past;
2)RSH, Waikiki can be beautiful, but I am on another island…and it was a nice and balmy 80 degree and sunny weather;
3)Blue, thanks for the input, I will try sand mode next time. As I indicated, on the steepest part of the ride down (the 9-10% grade) it would cycle pretty quickly from 2nd, 3rd and into 4th once it hit above 5,000 rpms, was never able to get it to stay in 2nd or 3rd…but next time I go, I will experiment….maybe I’ll start a ”how to engine brake” thread as my search have not really turned up anything.

Hope everyone has a Happy and Safe New Year!
 

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This is the first thread I have posted anywhere, so actually there are TWO threads, one with the photos, and one without (since I didn’t know what I am doing.)

Here they are, with a couple of bonus photos of my Bronco Sport with its Holiday Regalia. One phot doesn’t have the antlers, b/c they fell off when I was speaking to the rangers and lowered my windows...forgot to add them until after the hike. I took a lot of pics of Lake Waiau b/c my sister now lives on the mainland and never made the trek. I also took a lot of photos of the Bronco Sport b/c its new, had the holiday gear, and my wife wanted a lot of pics since she will be the primary driver.

Next time, I will take more pics of the Mauna, as it is truly a sacred and wonderful place.

To answer some Qs, I have driven to the top of Mauna Kea many times, usually in a borrowed vehicle (old boss’ Nissan Pathfinder, or business partner’s Toyota Tundra, and once before they got strict, in my old 2WD Ranger, which had a very difficult time going up, but no problems going down with engine breaking) or as a passenger. Coming down, I had it in 4WD manual, and tried to use the paddle shifters to keep it in lower gear, but as explained before, once the RPMs get around 5,000 + the engine shifts to next gear no matter what I did, sometimes very rapidly transition from 1st through 4th and hitting around 45 mph. Originally, I tried to slow it down to 20-25 mph and downshift, and it didn’t work…maybe I would get it into 2nd for a split second and it would cycle back up to 4th. Then I tried going down to about 10-15 mph, where the same thing would happen and that’s why I decided to come to a complete stop. (Why not, if I had to use the brakes, figured might as well.).

If I had someone behind me, I would have continued to tap the brakes down to 20-25 mph, especially before the turns. Not quite riding them, but I probably would have been on my brakes 15-25% of the time. I think I still would have had a “passing grade” on the bottoms, but it would definitely be hotter than 151 degrees. (If you wanted to ”cheat”, before you get to the ranger station you could pull off to the side and let the brakes cool off for a bit, as it levels out and there is another parking lot for the astronomer and support staff housing about 800 yards away. (Many of the astronomers and support staff at the mountain work a five day on, five day off schedule and sleep at the housing area to stay acclimated at 9,200 feet.))

If anyone had any suggestions on how to better engine brake on the Bronco Sport, I would love the input.

I hope everyone and their families have a wonderful Mele Kalikimaka. :)
Ford Bronco Sport Mele Kalikimaka from Hawaii Island IMG_0384


Ford Bronco Sport Mele Kalikimaka from Hawaii Island IMG_0371
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These shots are so cool!
 

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What a cool experience! I’d love to see Hawaii. Mele Kalikimaka to you as well!
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