Ecoboost 2.0 MPC (2025+) Oil Specification Change

[GoHack]

2025 Toyota Corolla use 0W-8. Crazy.

Yikes, were talking a consistency of almost pure water.

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[Mark S.]

Finally, w/the turbocharged cars now-a-days especially, aka Aspirated, the turbos run not only extremely hot, but run at extremely high RPMs, in the 100's of thousands, so they need to be extremely cared for more than ever, vs. that of an engine which doesn't have them, aka as Non-Aspirated.

As @jkernitzki noted, there is no such thing as a non-aspirated engine. There are naturally (or normally) aspirated engines, which rely on atmospheric pressure alone to get air into the engine, and there are forced-induction engines, which use some means of compressing the air going into the engine. Most modern automobile manufacturers rely on turbocharging as the means of forced induction.

Regarding "extremely cared for," I'm not sure what that means. Ford publishes a recommended maintenance schedule in the owner's manual that is included with every vehicle. It's based on a rigorous testing program that pushed engines--even turbocharged EcoBoost engines--to their absolute limit. Click here to read about the testing regime. Note that Ford maintains a testing facility in Dubai United Arab Emirates (UAE) where it ensures its engines will operate to specs in desert climates as long as the owner follows the recommended maintenance schedule.

 

[jkernitzki]

Note that Ford maintains a testing facility in Dubai, where it ensures its engines will operate to specs in desert climates as long as the owner follows the recommended maintenance schedule.

They've had a key proving ground just outside Phoenix for decades; most major manufacturers do as well. Even Caterpillar used to have a major proving ground in the West Valley, but it was sold off and is now a massive housing development. We also have a major crash test facility (Exponent) just north of Phoenix. If you've seen videos or mini-docs of crash tests outdoors, it was probably Exponent.

 

[GoHack]

As @jkernitzki noted, there is no such thing as a non-aspirated engine. There are naturally (or normally) aspirated engines, which rely on atmospheric pressure alone to get air into the engine, and there are forced-induction engines, which use some means of compressing the air going into the engine. Most modern automobile manufacturers rely on turbocharging as the means of forced induction.

Regarding "extremely cared for," I'm not sure what that means. Ford publishes a recommended maintenance schedule in the owner's manual that is included with every vehicle. It's based on a rigorous testing program that pushed engines--even turbocharged EcoBoost engines--to their absolute limit. Click here to read about the testing regime. Note that Ford maintains a testing facility in Dubai, where it ensures its engines will operate to specs in desert climates as long as the owner follows the recommended maintenance schedule.

With NA, or Non-Aspirated, I've seen that as meaning w/no turbo or supercharged intake. Just taking in air at atmospheric pressure.

As for Aspirated, I have seen it referred to as a engine w/either a Turbo or Supercharged intake. I tried finding something to state it as such, but couldn't find anything.

 

[Mark S.]

With NA, or Non-Aspirated, I've seen that as meaning w/no turbo or supercharged intake. Just taking in air at atmospheric pressure.

As for Aspirated, I have seen it referred to as a engine w/either a Turbo or Supercharged intake. I tried finding something to state it as such, but couldn't find anything.

I've never heard of either of these terms used to describe internal combustion engine induction methodology. NA in reference to engine air induction means naturally or normally aspirated. All other inductions methods require compression of the air going to the engine--the air is literally forced into the cylinders under pressure, thus these systems are referred to as forced induction.

I suspect you once read someone else's mistaken impression, or you may have misheard or misread something in the past and it has stuck with you. The "primacy effect" in the context of communication suggests first impressions are hard to overcome.

 

[GoHack]

I've never heard of either of these terms used to describe internal combustion engine induction methodology. NA in reference to engine air induction means naturally or normally aspirated. All other inductions methods require compression of the air going to the engine--the air is literally forced into the cylinders under pressure, thus these systems are referred to as forced induction.

I suspect you once read someone else's mistaken impression, or you may have misheard or misread something in the past and it has stuck with you. The "primacy effect" in the context of communication suggests first impressions are hard to overcome.

Could be.

You may be right.

Oh well.

 

[stemplar]

An Aspirated Engine uses forced induction through a turbocharger or a supercharger.

If this is a quote, what's the source? An engine is either naturally aspirated or forced induction.

 

[GoHack]

If this is a quote, what's the source? An engine is either naturally aspirated or forced induction.

I don't have a source, other than what I've read, which I can't find.

Once again I have seen N/A referred to as Non-Aspirated, or simply a normal atmospheric intake.

I did find this:

https://www.google.com/search?q=Non-Aspirated

"Non-aspirated" is another term for naturally aspirated engines, which means they don't use forced induction like turbochargers or superchargers to force more air into the engine cylinders. Instead, they rely solely on atmospheric pressure to draw in air.

 

[John Kulakowski]

2025 BS (Badlands)
2 weeks old
2.0l
The 'online' manual says 0w-20.
The oil filler cap says 5w-30

I'm sticking with the 5w-30. As the is the 'latest' update. Reason: Had a 2008 Fusion 6 cyl. Ford had a brake recall on the Fusion. Ford remedy was flushing the brake system. Changing brake fluid from dot 3 to dot 4. And replacing the brake fluid cap with verbiage - Use dot 4.

 

[Mark S.]

The 'online' manual says 0w-20.

The recommended oil is 5W30. I don't believe the manual recommends 0W20 for the 2.0L. There is a recommendation for 0W30 oil for "extremely cold climates." Here's the link to the engine oil page for the online Owner's Manual for the 2025 Bronco Sport. Excerpt:

 

[ELCouz]

The recommended oil is 5W30. I don't believe the manual recommends 0W20 for the 2.0L. There is a recommendation for 0W30 oil for "extremely cold climates." Here's the link to the engine oil page for the online Owner's Manual for the 2025 Bronco Sport. Excerpt:

It's a mistake in the manual for the Badlands 2025. Maybe it's been fixed. Anyway I knew from the beginning it was wrong. But new owner could put the wrong oil if they read the online manual.

Too lazy to check if they fixed it now .?

In any case, using what the oil cap says is never a bad idea.

 

[jkernitzki]

It's a mistake in the manual for the Badlands 2025. Maybe it's been fixed. Anyway I knew from the beginning it was wrong. But new owner could put the wrong oil if they read the online manual.

Too lazy to check if they fixed it now .?

In any case, using what the oil cap says is never a bad idea.

Wouldn't it stand to reason that the online version is arguably more current, and likely correct? After all, the publishing date for the PDF is now a year ago (July 2024) when the '25's were still pre-production.

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