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Oh noes!!! My feelings are hurt!!! Your devilishy clever insults have damaged my fragile ego forever!!! :crying: :crying: :crying:

Hmm, the little I can find would suggest the low gears are getting taller. I suppose if you're expecting to put 1000+lbft of torque behind it you don't need to try so hard with the gearing. It would also be less necessary to electronically torque limit the low end so you don't peel out every...

I don't think the 10R140 is a known quantity yet. The 2020 superduty and its 10speed are still listed as a future vehicle.

Some of the ratio distribution seems uneven for the 10R80. Do you imagine that would be more even for the 10R140? Something would presumably shift toward the lower end. . . eta: for giggles here's a 7sp manual getrag MT88 ... . .

It does look quite large. Hopefully some of that is just the 'fleet' perspective -- the F150 and Transit certainly aren't small compared to a Mustang.

The real sleeper surprise would seem to the be genuinely tiny SUV that appears to share a front end with the Courier.. aka "Teeny-Tiny-Bronco" aka "Colt"? :bandit: . Not this one.

This is how I would identify most of them. The "yet-to-be-named small rugged off road utility" is over on the left side next to the Escape it shares a platform with. IDK the small cars, so whatever ... . .

These images were before the design would have been finalized, and could be slightly off scale, but if the rest of the models are proportionate I would expect the Broncos to be too. The 3 and 5 door models do seem to have more differences that an extra pair of doors would account for. Does...

You don't want a cactus giving your shiny new paint a hug! :muscle:

I really hope they changed their minds. :fingerscrossed:

It will use the same C2 platform the new Escape is using. The Ford Executive Vice President of Product Development said so. (A) (B) . eta ... been looking for this image for a while, is that a 3 and 5 door Bronco on the front row right side? Not a truck, rather short with flat square hood...

Some camera ninjas were peeping up Ford's skirt and gave us a glimpse of a naked unibody shell for the "yet to be named small off road utility"

Hopefully they come to their sense and abandon the rest of the Bronco Sillynames, and just give this vehicle its own identity.

Coming from the guy who doesn't even want to call the midsize BOF truck "the Bronco" ... :giggle:

Some details on the sibling to the small rugged utility, the 'Courier' (P758), and perhaps what some are confusing as a Gladiator fighter because its a "Bronco pickup" ... https://www.whichcar.com.au/news/ford-focus-ute The C2 platform is what the new Escape and babyB are also being built on.

The filing, assigned serial number 88386362, was abandoned on September 9th, 2019. Good riddance. Now they just need to stop calling it 'Bronco' anything all together and give it its own name, like Maverick or whatever...

While I like the aesthetic styling of the EB, that stretch unit is way too long for anything but the street or beach. Like the ridiculous Gladiator design, it will have atrocious breakover and turning.

Perhaps just a trim difference, but the outside diameter seems significantly greater.

Like most of the vehicle it is covered in a vinyl wrap, just as the rear window is. I think it's a bit more visually restrictive than it should be, but if we're going to make some compromises in order to meet rollover standards, I'd rather see it happen back at the C-D pillar than up front.

If you're responding to the images from Idahorocks then yes, they're two separate models, built entirely differently. The idea was a comparison of size to illustrate that the "baby Bronco" is not substantialy smaller, and the "baby" appellation is a misnomer that is going to confuse people...