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I believe you meant 87 octane. 87 octane is the minimum recommended, and you should never use lower octane fuel. At many higher elevation locations 85 octane is "regular," with 87 or 89 the mid-grade. Don't use 85 octane--stick with 87 octane or higher.

I agree with you that the lie-o-meter should not be trusted to deliver accurate mileage stats. The change in indication from roughly 19 mpg to 23 mpg is a perfect example.

I'm going to make an assumption here (please tell me if I'm wrong): The weather was generally warmer for the three tanks of regular vs the three tanks of premium. In my experience with EcoBoost engines cold weather has a far greater impact on fuel economy that fuel octane. If the weather was significantly colder for the three tankfuls of premium that could explain the reduction in fuel economy.

It's not surprising you felt a difference in performance with premium. Being more performance oriented, members of the EcoBoost Mustang community did a lot of dyno testing, and most estimates place the difference in engine power output between regular vs premium gas at 10%-15%. The 2.3L EcoBoost was rated at 310 hp on premium, but dyno testing showed that number was closer to 270 hp on regular. The 1.5L in the Bronco Sport makes 181 hp on premium fuel. A 15% reduction would dial power back to around 150 hp. That would make a significant difference in seat-of-the-pants feel in the mountains!
Yes to the Octane level. The temps of the day were with in 6 degrees of each other. Due to my driving i can do 1000 per week. Now that im back on regular gas and well after my testing yesterday’s temp was really high it was at 47 degrees and on the way home i got over 31.3 miles to a gallon. Lieometer said 32.7 so i filled up again to see if i was dreaming. I did get better fuel economy. Cant wait for summer to see how high it goes.
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A while back I added a Curt receiver and trailer wiring to our Badlands as there had always been an intention to be able to do light towing with it. I posted about the wiring work back in October:

Trailer Wiring Install for Bronco Sport Using Factory Power Circuit (Part Two – Installation) | 2021+ Ford Bronco Sport Forum - Broncosportforum.com

The big motivation to get it all done before winter set in was that I accepted a new job in the Monterey CA area, which meant a 2,000+ mile move from the Midwest. After examining the options, the most cost-effective choice was to have our less-critical items shipped via container while the must-have stuff got hauled in our BS plus a U-Haul Trailer.

Based on the 2,200lb limit for the Badlands model, the largest trailer U-Haul will let you book is their 5x8 model, which has a 900lb empty weight and a 2,700lb GVW.

For the hitch mount I went with a Curt Class III mount with a 4”drop. For the 2” ball I decided to try the Curt 7,500lb Rockerball as I’d seen good reviews on its ability to reduce driveline shock when towing trailers with no trailer brakes. Since the Rockerball adds an inch to the overall hitch height, this worked out to an approximately 3” drop from the receiver height on the Badlands with the Curt unit. In addition, the ball mount was further secured with an anti-rattle clamp.

Amazon.com: CURT 45050 Class 3 Trailer Hitch Ball Mount, Fits 2-Inch Receiver, 7,500 lbs, 1-Inch Hole, 4-Inch Drop, 2-In Rise : Automotive

Amazon.com: CURT 40047 RockerBall Cushion Hitch Trailer Ball 7,500 lbs, 2-Inch Diameter, 1-Inch Shank : Automotive

Ford Bronco Sport Hauling with and towing a U-Haul 20220102_135351


That setup, once the trailer and BS were all loaded up, gave me an almost perfectly level pitch on the hitch. The Curt Rockerball was a pleasant surprise as it really does work as advertised, when combined with the anti-rattle clamp it reduced the jerking/shock through the driveline to an almost negligible level. I would highly recommend it.

Ford Bronco Sport Hauling with and towing a U-Haul 20211227_160127


My estimation is that there was probably about 1,000-1,200lbs loaded into the trailer (for an estimated GVW of 1,900-2,100lbs), with another 700-800lbs in the Badlands itself (wife, myself, English bulldog, misc. household items), so this was towards the high-end of what Ford would recommend for it.

If anyone was keeping tabs on the weather last week, we saw just about every road condition imaginable, from calm and flat (Missouri, Kansas, last part of California), to high-elevation, near blizzard conditions (I-70 trhough Glenwood Canyon and Loveland Pass), to 60+ mph winds (Colorado, Utah, Nevada) to rain (on and off throughout). FWIW our Badlands handled it all exceptionally well, with only a couple of brief nerve-racking moments during the descent on the west-side of the Continental Divide on I-70 when conditions were near-white out and there were a few inches of snow on the pavement. But even with a trailer hanging off the back in some really poor road conditions I never felt like the vehicle was over-extended. Indeed, with the GOAT mode set to slippery plus anti-sway and lane-keeping assist on, it was quite possibly the most poised vehicle I’ve driven while towing. In some ways it was almost too poised as I could see it encouraging someone to push it harder/faster than they probably should and getting bitten hard by physics if they weren’t careful.

Ford Bronco Sport Hauling with and towing a U-Haul 20211230_112040


Fuel mileage suffered big-time, which really should be no surprise, with a total trip average of 15.9 mpg, on generally 91 octane fuel. Similar to my Fiesta ST, the 2.0l EcoSport motor is very sensitive to the quality of gasoline, with best MPG and responsiveness using 91 octane with no added ethanol (which yielded something closer to 18mpg) to the one tank of 87 octane with 10% ethanol getting me only about 14 mpg. Being that thirsty though meant fuel stops around every 200 miles, so we saw a lot of travel plazas:

Ford Bronco Sport Hauling with and towing a U-Haul 20211229_161718


Final numbers:

2,165.6 Miles from Springfield IL to Marina CA.

38.09 Hours trip time (with overnight stays, etc.… about 4 days overall)

56.9 average MPH.

15.9 average MPG

Ford Bronco Sport Hauling with and towing a U-Haul 20211231_153152 (2)


Overall I’m delighted with the capability of our Badlands when it comes to towing and while I’m sure Ford had their reasons limiting it to just 2,200lbs, it is an incredibly competent and confidence-inspiring vehicle pretty much right up to that limit. Power from the 2.0l 4 was very good, ride and handling were excellent, and fuel mileage wasn’t horrible. Coming out of the experience I think the only thing I would have loved to have seen is a somewhat larger fuel tank as I could picture scenarios where pulling a camper into the back-woods with only a 200-225 mile tank range would make me want to make sure I was fully fueled before leaving civilization. Other than that, this thing can definitely tow.

Ford Bronco Sport Hauling with and towing a U-Haul 20211231_150907
I think you may have pushed it too hard, but
A while back I added a Curt receiver and trailer wiring to our Badlands as there had always been an intention to be able to do light towing with it. I posted about the wiring work back in October:

Trailer Wiring Install for Bronco Sport Using Factory Power Circuit (Part Two – Installation) | 2021+ Ford Bronco Sport Forum - Broncosportforum.com

The big motivation to get it all done before winter set in was that I accepted a new job in the Monterey CA area, which meant a 2,000+ mile move from the Midwest. After examining the options, the most cost-effective choice was to have our less-critical items shipped via container while the must-have stuff got hauled in our BS plus a U-Haul Trailer.

Based on the 2,200lb limit for the Badlands model, the largest trailer U-Haul will let you book is their 5x8 model, which has a 900lb empty weight and a 2,700lb GVW.

For the hitch mount I went with a Curt Class III mount with a 4”drop. For the 2” ball I decided to try the Curt 7,500lb Rockerball as I’d seen good reviews on its ability to reduce driveline shock when towing trailers with no trailer brakes. Since the Rockerball adds an inch to the overall hitch height, this worked out to an approximately 3” drop from the receiver height on the Badlands with the Curt unit. In addition, the ball mount was further secured with an anti-rattle clamp.

Amazon.com: CURT 45050 Class 3 Trailer Hitch Ball Mount, Fits 2-Inch Receiver, 7,500 lbs, 1-Inch Hole, 4-Inch Drop, 2-In Rise : Automotive

Amazon.com: CURT 40047 RockerBall Cushion Hitch Trailer Ball 7,500 lbs, 2-Inch Diameter, 1-Inch Shank : Automotive

Ford Bronco Sport Hauling with and towing a U-Haul 20220102_135351


That setup, once the trailer and BS were all loaded up, gave me an almost perfectly level pitch on the hitch. The Curt Rockerball was a pleasant surprise as it really does work as advertised, when combined with the anti-rattle clamp it reduced the jerking/shock through the driveline to an almost negligible level. I would highly recommend it.

Ford Bronco Sport Hauling with and towing a U-Haul 20211227_160127


My estimation is that there was probably about 1,000-1,200lbs loaded into the trailer (for an estimated GVW of 1,900-2,100lbs), with another 700-800lbs in the Badlands itself (wife, myself, English bulldog, misc. household items), so this was towards the high-end of what Ford would recommend for it.

If anyone was keeping tabs on the weather last week, we saw just about every road condition imaginable, from calm and flat (Missouri, Kansas, last part of California), to high-elevation, near blizzard conditions (I-70 trhough Glenwood Canyon and Loveland Pass), to 60+ mph winds (Colorado, Utah, Nevada) to rain (on and off throughout). FWIW our Badlands handled it all exceptionally well, with only a couple of brief nerve-racking moments during the descent on the west-side of the Continental Divide on I-70 when conditions were near-white out and there were a few inches of snow on the pavement. But even with a trailer hanging off the back in some really poor road conditions I never felt like the vehicle was over-extended. Indeed, with the GOAT mode set to slippery plus anti-sway and lane-keeping assist on, it was quite possibly the most poised vehicle I’ve driven while towing. In some ways it was almost too poised as I could see it encouraging someone to push it harder/faster than they probably should and getting bitten hard by physics if they weren’t careful.

Ford Bronco Sport Hauling with and towing a U-Haul 20211230_112040


Fuel mileage suffered big-time, which really should be no surprise, with a total trip average of 15.9 mpg, on generally 91 octane fuel. Similar to my Fiesta ST, the 2.0l EcoSport motor is very sensitive to the quality of gasoline, with best MPG and responsiveness using 91 octane with no added ethanol (which yielded something closer to 18mpg) to the one tank of 87 octane with 10% ethanol getting me only about 14 mpg. Being that thirsty though meant fuel stops around every 200 miles, so we saw a lot of travel plazas:

Ford Bronco Sport Hauling with and towing a U-Haul 20211229_161718


Final numbers:

2,165.6 Miles from Springfield IL to Marina CA.

38.09 Hours trip time (with overnight stays, etc.… about 4 days overall)

56.9 average MPH.

15.9 average MPG

Ford Bronco Sport Hauling with and towing a U-Haul 20211231_153152 (2)


Overall I’m delighted with the capability of our Badlands when it comes to towing and while I’m sure Ford had their reasons limiting it to just 2,200lbs, it is an incredibly competent and confidence-inspiring vehicle pretty much right up to that limit. Power from the 2.0l 4 was very good, ride and handling were excellent, and fuel mileage wasn’t horrible. Coming out of the experience I think the only thing I would have loved to have seen is a somewhat larger fuel tank as I could picture scenarios where pulling a camper into the back-woods with only a 200-225 mile tank range would make me want to make sure I was fully fueled before leaving civilization. Other than that, this thing can definitely tow.

Ford Bronco Sport Hauling with and towing a U-Haul 20211231_150907
Great to hear your badlands performed. My two cents is that you might have pushed her a bit too hard, going over the gross combined weight rating when all was said and done. The reason I think this is because the towing capacity assumes that only the driver is in the vehicle when towing the max 2,200lbs. So adding 800lbs in the vehicle on top of the 2,000 lbs you towed put you over the rating by about 600lbs. My understanding was that the towed weight has to come up under the max towing capacity to account for the interior of the towing vehicle's contents (for example, other occupants, luggage, etc.). Therefore your max tow should have been around 1,400lbs to account for your vehicles load.

Another annoying thing is that the owners manual states that trailer breaks need to be used for any towed weight over 1,500lbs. I assume the uhaul didn't have breaks, and the badlands only had the class 2 hitch with the 4 pin connection.


I'd love to get yours/anyone's opinion on my interpretation of this and I am by no means trying to be a dick. I'm new to towing and just want to protect my new (new to me) 2021 badlands before I tow a tent trailer.

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Tow capacity is only the trailer and its cargo. Tow vehicle pax & cargo are not included in that; they (plus hitch weight) are counted against GVWR. Don’t forget that GVWR is also a per axle calculation. GCWR is everything combined. So there’s three values that cannot be exceeded: GVWR, GCWR, and tow rating. I’ve got a spreadsheet that I can plug in values for each to know if I’m about to exceed any of the three and the percentage of rated capacity of each.

Given my Badlands only has a 2700# tow rating, I don’t really intend to use it for towing anyway, even though I ran it through a CAT scale the first week I owned it. My original plan was something along the lines of the Ranger, which is why I went down that rabbit hole in the first place.

AFAIK, U-Haul trailers have surge brakes.
 

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Tow capacity is only the trailer and its cargo. Tow vehicle pax & cargo are not included in that; they (plus hitch weight) are counted against GVWR. Don’t forget that GVWR is also a per axle calculation. GCWR is everything combined. So there’s three values that cannot be exceeded: GVWR, GCWR, and tow rating. I’ve got a spreadsheet that I can plug in values for each to know if I’m about to exceed any of the three and the percentage of rated capacity of each.

Given my Badlands only has a 2700# tow rating, I don’t really intend to use it for towing anyway, even though I ran it through a CAT scale the first week I owned it. My original plan was something along the lines of the Ranger, which is why I went down that rabbit hole in the first place.

AFAIK, U-Haul trailers have surge brakes.
The smaller single axle U-haul trailers do not use surge brakes. Only the larger dual axles cargo trailers do.

Personally, I would not be too concerned towing 1500 lbs. Of course braking distance is going to increase and I wouldn’t advise tailgating.
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