Ground Tent Suggestions?

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This video shows more detail including the anticipated price in Euros (4,000 which is about $4,268 USD as of today)

weight is about 70kg (154lbs)

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It's pretty slick and looks awesome. Setup is easy and fast and it gets you off the ground. My main concern with this personally would be I'd never leave it behind. At that price I just couldn't bring myself to leave it at a campsite regardless of a campground or dispersed. I wonder if they will sell some sort of locking mechanism for some of the hinges on the frame. Then you couldn't fold it up and throw it in your car.
 

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It's pretty slick and looks awesome. Setup is easy and fast and it gets you off the ground. My main concern with this personally would be I'd never leave it behind. At that price I just couldn't bring myself to leave it at a campsite regardless of a campground or dispersed. I wonder if they will sell some sort of locking mechanism for some of the hinges on the frame. Then you couldn't fold it up and throw it in your car.
Yep that’s a concern for an expensive portable tent. Perhaps could hide an AirTag in the frame and track it as the tent disappears over the horizon.
 

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+1 for Big Agnes, we love ours.

The only piece of advice I can give about mattresses is to stay away from air only. We had a 6" air only pad that was super comfy until we went camping in the spring and a cold snap hit. Get a pad with foam so you won't freeze.
You can also get air mattresses with a bit of fiber fill in them. Less bulk and weight than foam, but enough to stop convection in the mattress.

Pretty happy with this one for car camping. https://www.rei.com/product/136261/rei-co-op-kingdom-insulated-air-bed-queen.

I’d probably put down a foam mat or bubble wrap underneath if I was on snow, but it’s been comfy at just under freezing temps. Have been plenty warm on snow with an insulated backpacking air pad and foam mat combo that have about the same r-value.
 

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We've got the best value 4 person tent to fit myself, my boyfriend, and our dog. Pricey but worth it. Before I met him, I was a sleep on the ground and rough it kind of girl. Then he got us this fancy tent and a couple of cots with sleeping pads. The rest is history - Never looking back. We're practically glamping with how cozy we are.
Hello, as the bairns are getting old enough for camping to be considered I'm thinking that my trusty North Face Westwind won't cut it now there's four of us. Can anyone recommend a 4 person tent for family use, but also suitable to be carried for decent distances to make the most of the remoter Scottish opportunities? I've had a look at the market and like the looks of the MSR Elixir 4, happy to carry the extra weight over the mutha hubba for toughness and space. Does anyone have anything else they'd recommend?
 


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You can also get air mattresses with a bit of fiber fill in them. Less bulk and weight than foam, but enough to stop convection in the mattress.

Pretty happy with this one for car camping. https://www.rei.com/product/136261/rei-co-op-kingdom-insulated-air-bed-queen.

I’d probably put down a foam mat or bubble wrap underneath if I was on snow, but it’s been comfy at just under freezing temps. Have been plenty warm on snow with an insulated backpacking air pad and foam mat combo that have about the same r-value.
I do most of my camping on the motorcycle, so size and weight of every item are crucial. The Big Agnes down sleeping bag packs very small, but relies on an insulated sleeping pad because the bottom of it is nothing more than a thin layer of material. The top is nicely insulated with the down. Big Agnes has some nice sleeping pads that don't have any fill but are also insulated but I found one from Nemo that is almost as good and was comfortable a couple weeks ago when I first tried it. It packs down to about the size of a water bottle.

For summer camping an uninsulated sleeping pad is good to relieve some of the heat kept in by that same down sleeping bag. That sleeping pad is a little thicker (when inflated) than the Nemo but is not good once the temps drop into the low 40's or less. It packs a little larger than the Nemo, but since other "cold" related items aren't needed, it works out well.
 

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Yeah, I do some bicycle and sled camping, where bulk matters more than weight. I’ve got a backpacking air pad with fiber fill. They weigh a bit more than foam, but pack down so tiny.
 

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I camp at the Airventure airshow in Oshkosh, WI. Almost every trip there is a major storm with lots of wind. The tents that seem to hold up best for those storms are the REI tents.
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