Well I have to say I’m disappointed…

[Bill G]

Does stop/start have anything to do with this?

We have about 26,000 miles on our 22 Badlands and haven’t used stop/start once.

We had the recall performed about 6 weeks ago and haven’t experienced any problems since.

Our Badlands does not have an AGM battery. I do carry a Noco just in case.

I actually commented to my wife about the near instant start up the other day. It’s very fast.

Maybe I’ve said too much!

Everybody seems to have their own opinion. Here’s the way I went:
Had recall performed and a few weeks later my EF battery went belly up, replaced it with AGM from Ford (original battery lasted @ 3 1/2 years in SoCal).
Put in the little cigarette lighter volt monitor in the cubby to keep an eye on things.
Quit using the ASS in local/short trip driving, which is most of what I do as I’m retired so just take the wife shopping . Locally I do use eco mode. On long trips I let the ASS do its job. So far this “system” seems to be working out well.

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[Lonewolf]

Indeed. The unfortunate truth is that due to Covid, supply chain chronic challenges, and the humongous complexity of our modern cars, all brands are suffering from more issues now. New Atlas discussed this in the link below. As a Ford fan, I’m not terribly proud of Ford’s ranking (somewhat below mid-pack in the JD Power rankings in that article). Clearly Ford has work to do to improve. (And from what I’ve read, they’re taking diligent action to get better, such as holds before releasing new vehicles and so on.) But for our friend Lonewolf above… well best of luck… Jeep is ranked as worse than Ford in those rankings. Link:

https://newatlas.com/automotive/j-d-power-u-s-vds-iqs-auto-industry-quality-dropping/

As a Ford owner, I’ve gradually got my head into the 2024 situation and am keeping a wider perspective on it all. My Sport has been back to the dealer for a few warranty recalls (eg, they replaced my battery, the brake parts and the RDU hose & fluid). But it still runs like a gazelle over bumpy Detroit streets… hauls a surprising amount of cargo for its convenient size… turns heads in traffic… and gives me grins with it’s quiet, powerful and frugal powertrain. So welcome to 2024….

I worked for POD and Ford CSS JD powers ranks on how much the Companys will pay them I go by what the people that own Jeeps say. Thanks

 

[Jrl]

22’ BSBB bought brand new in November of 22’. Put 40k miles on it. At 38k I had the BCM Recall performed. Noticed that engine performance felt a little better which I found odd but my cranking seemed slower and slower.
Left the house this morning, cranked fine. Got to the gym and worked out for two hours. Dead as can be with absolutely nothing left on. The one time I didn’t have my jump pack with me and not a soul in the parking lot had cables.
Called Ford Roadside- 3 hr eta.

Called local dealer- $400.00 please it’s 4k miles out of warranty. And it’s not covered by your Ford Protect as it’s a wear item.

Called Ford Corporate- it’s out of warranty what do you want us to do.

I managed to get jump and ate the $290.00 at Auto Zone and put in the AGM that it called for… which it didn’t have from the factory. I offered to pay a pro-rated charge for the battery at the dealer because I’m sorry but 1 year and 10 months on a battery is just piss poor in my option. And Ford’s customer service seems to die a little more as each year goes by.

I’ve had over 30 Ford Products in my lifetime and manage a fleet that I exclusively purchase Ford trucks for. My options are starting to change…
Rant over.

For those of you that are on an original battery and notice degradation in your BS ‘s ability to crank on start up, I’d suggest biting the bullet before your left stranded.

I bought one of these.Also added a phone holder.

 

[MedTech]

Does stop/start have anything to do with this?

We have about 26,000 miles on our 22 Badlands and haven’t used stop/start once.

We had the recall performed about 6 weeks ago and haven’t experienced any problems since.

Our Badlands does not have an AGM battery. I do carry a Noco just in case.

I actually commented to my wife about the near instant start up the other day. It’s very fast.

Maybe I’ve said too much!

I never use my auto start-stop....think it is the dumbest feature ever put in cars. I just find it strange that a battery went from 100% health to dead in 11 days after the BCM recall. Coincidence? Maybe but maybe not.

 

[Dude]

I never use my auto start-stop....think it is the dumbest feature ever put in cars. I just find it strange that a battery went from 100% health to dead in 11 days after the BCM recall. Coincidence? Maybe but maybe not.

Definitely not a coincidence, this has happened to a number of owners posting the same

We guess that the battery was nearing its end of life regardless but whatever changes Ford made in the BCM Configuration update (24S24) brings to light the battery needs to be replaced

In a year or 2 we will know how well 24S24 works with batteries replaced shortly after having 24S24 completed

Btw not everyone experiences the battery failure after 24S24 but some like you (and me) did

 

[BLUEOVALRACER]

I never use my auto start-stop....think it is the dumbest feature ever put in cars. I just find it strange that a battery went from 100% health to dead in 11 days after the BCM recall. Coincidence? Maybe but maybe not.

I try not to use it but sometimes i forget to push the button to shut it off.

 

[NMhunter]

12.3 volts is a 70% charge according to this chart. Be aware that voltage right after a drive will be higher than voltage that shows after a few hours. The voltage in the morning is the one you should monitor. If showing less than about 13 volts while driving, then your alternator is probably faulty.

 

[Dude]

12.3 volts is a 70% charge according to this chart. Be aware that voltage right after a drive will be higher than voltage that shows after a few hours. The voltage in the morning is the one you should monitor. If showing less than about 13 volts while driving, then your alternator is probably faulty.

Here’s the chart for AGM

 

[BLUEOVALRACER]

Here’s the chart for AGM

Thanks that's a helpful chart.

 

[Badlander1234]

22’ BSBB bought brand new in November of 22’. Put 40k miles on it. At 38k I had the BCM Recall performed. Noticed that engine performance felt a little better which I found odd but my cranking seemed slower and slower.
Left the house this morning, cranked fine. Got to the gym and worked out for two hours. Dead as can be with absolutely nothing left on. The one time I didn’t have my jump pack with me and not a soul in the parking lot had cables.
Called Ford Roadside- 3 hr eta.

Called local dealer- $400.00 please it’s 4k miles out of warranty. And it’s not covered by your Ford Protect as it’s a wear item.

Called Ford Corporate- it’s out of warranty what do you want us to do.

I managed to get jump and ate the $290.00 at Auto Zone and put in the AGM that it called for… which it didn’t have from the factory. I offered to pay a pro-rated charge for the battery at the dealer because I’m sorry but 1 year and 10 months on a battery is just piss poor in my option. And Ford’s customer service seems to die a little more as each year goes by.

I’ve had over 30 Ford Products in my lifetime and manage a fleet that I exclusively purchase Ford trucks for. My options are starting to change…
Rant over.

For those of you that are on an original battery and notice degradation in your BS ‘s ability to crank on start up, I’d suggest biting the bullet before your left stranded.

Two to three years seems about normal for a battery these days with all of the electronics on vehicles these days, no matter the brand. Not a reason to switch manufacturers. Enjoy your Bronco Sport.

 

[KHavens]

22’ BSBB bought brand new in November of 22’. Put 40k miles on it. At 38k I had the BCM Recall performed. Noticed that engine performance felt a little better which I found odd but my cranking seemed slower and slower.
Left the house this morning, cranked fine. Got to the gym and worked out for two hours. Dead as can be with absolutely nothing left on. The one time I didn’t have my jump pack with me and not a soul in the parking lot had cables.
Called Ford Roadside- 3 hr eta.

Called local dealer- $400.00 please it’s 4k miles out of warranty. And it’s not covered by your Ford Protect as it’s a wear item.

Called Ford Corporate- it’s out of warranty what do you want us to do.

I managed to get jump and ate the $290.00 at Auto Zone and put in the AGM that it called for… which it didn’t have from the factory. I offered to pay a pro-rated charge for the battery at the dealer because I’m sorry but 1 year and 10 months on a battery is just piss poor in my option. And Ford’s customer service seems to die a little more as each year goes by.

I’ve had over 30 Ford Products in my lifetime and manage a fleet that I exclusively purchase Ford trucks for. My options are starting to change…
Rant over.

For those of you that are on an original battery and notice degradation in your BS ‘s ability to crank on start up, I’d suggest biting the bullet before your left stranded.

22 BB with 46k on it and in June the battery exploded. Gotta love that Ford puts a battery in a vehicle that isn't equipped to handle all the electronics on the car. Ford customer service couldn't have cared less either. $500+ after the tow and the AGM battery being put in. These things should have come with an AGM battery, kinda like they should have come with ceramic brakes so they don't whine in reverse. They should have come with a rear differential hose that wasn't made too short, allowing debris to get in it, causing the hose to need replacement, and or the entire RDU to be replaced. My sport has been in the shop 7 times in 18 months. We'll be getting rid of this thing asap.

 

[sajohnson]

From Interstate:

"A car battery lasts 3-5 years usually. Heavier than usual wear and tear can keep a battery from lasting that long. On the other hand, some car batteries have lasted far longer, even up to 10 years."

Yes, a Car Battery Can Last 10 Years. Sometimes, Much Longer.

"Car batteries can last much, much longer than three to five years. In fact, Interstate’s battery guru Jeff Barron said he hears “quite often” about car batteries lasting 10 years or longer. When a car battery lasts 10 years, it means it never took any significant, permanent damage from either sitting in high temperatures or sitting for a long time with a low charge.

There are two keys to long battery life:

* Staying fully charged
* Staying protected from temperature extremes in winter and summer

This is no guarantee, but if you park in a garage and hook up a trickle charger every so often, you may get longer-than-average life from your battery. Then again, you may do everything right — and the car battery you bought might have sat on the shelf too long for it to last beyond the average."
https://www.interstatebatteries.com/blog/how-long-do-car-batteries-usually-last

 

[coopny]

It's already been covered in this thread, but the enhanced flooded batteries are crap. Whether Ford overestimated the ability of an EFB to handle the electrical demands of the BS or did it as a supplier availability issue during COVID, they should not be shipping modern vehicles without AGM batteries.

24S24 will probably improve battery longevity among those who drive at least once a week. A trickle charger is always the best option (for those who have parking situations where this is a feasible/convenient option) if you want to maximize battery life.

I will take the silver lining rather than being Mr. Grumpy - the pain that many BS owners have experienced with battery failures is likely to have resulted in an innovation that was honestly overdue. Everything was computerized, the computer saw the voltage and state of charge already. But there was never a business case for making an algorithm to monitor the battery and alert the driver if the battery should be replaced until it became a safety issue (and therefore a liability issue) for Ford.

And no, I'm not trashing Ford in the last paragraph, addressing safety issues is sensible from a human and liability front. But the improvement in having an algorithm to alert the driver if the battery is going bunk is probably going to make a lot of people replace their batteries before they're in a parking lot trying to get somebody to jump or tow them.

As others have said, I view the "replace battery" messages not as a consequence of aberrant charging under the 24S24 recall, but as a result of damage to the battery done by the pre-recall charging behavior, noticed by the 24S24 updated BCM/PCM flashes after it gets a baseline on the battery health and realizes it's going bunk.

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