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Thanks for the info...Good to see more facts (I know, Leaked)

I've pretty much lost interest in the Bronco & Mustang-E...Hopefully, after this mess, life will return to normal.

Stay Safe Everyone.
 

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With the new 8-spd automatic, it is tall geared and short shifts. There is a booming drone from 45 mph to 65-70 mph. At steady 50-55 mph it's irritating, almost unbearable. The engine turns only 1500 rpm at 60 mph. In the Escape at least, there is no Sport Mode with this engine/ trans combination, only PRNDL so you can't hold it in a lower gear like you can with the 2.0L/Select Shift.
I might consider the Bigger Brother, but the Sport lost me at the first digit in the VIN. and no way would I buy one made anywhere with the Dragon engine
 

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WTF? No hybrid this year, much less no plug-in hybrid, I’ve lost interest. See ‘ya Ford.
 

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The more I read, the more disappointed I become.
I thought these were being USA built, and now Ford
installs an inherently imbalanced 3 cyl? I can see
lots of recalls in this vehicle's future...
 

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This totally confirms that the Bronco Sport is a rebodied Escape.
 

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This totally confirms that the Bronco Sport is a rebodied Escape.
If so, I already have an'09 Mariner.
It may have some dirt cred, as the wheelbase is 2 in. shorter which, would theoretically at least, offer better breakover angles. The nose is also more "chin up" than the Escape's for maybe the same reason? Still, nothing on suspension, I probably won't do anything until early 2022, but for now, the Hermosillo-built Sport is off my list.
 

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If so, I already have an'09 Mariner.
It may have some dirt cred, as the wheelbase is 2 in. shorter which, would theoretically at least, offer better breakover angles. The nose is also more "chin up" than the Escape's for maybe the same reason? Still, nothing on suspension, I probably won't do anything until early 2022, but for now, the Hermosillo-built Sport is off my list.
Hay nothing wrong with it being a rebodied Escape I have owned three Escapes and they were very competent is the snow. Also sharing platforms saves a lot of money so the Bronco Sport won't be to high priced.
 

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Hay nothing wrong with it being a rebodied Escape I have owned three Escapes and they were very competent is the snow. Also sharing platforms saves a lot of money so the Bronco Sport won't be to high priced.
I have a 2018 Escape SEL 4wd along with the 2009 Mariner. Both are good winter vehicles, but I prefer the boxier, V6 Merc. The Escape feels smaller inside than the Mariner, so I probably will get the Bronco, For now, the Sport is a pass. Too many good SUVs available that are built in this country.
 

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Becoming more of a turnoff. Wet timing belt (at least in the dragon), Hermosillo-built, no manual tranny, giant arcade screen on the dash. I was hoping for an improved version of my 2006 Escape. I'm beginning to believe the original Escape's success and appeal was bolstered with Mazda's heavy collaboration on that design.
 

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Becoming more of a turnoff. Wet timing belt (at least in the dragon), Hermosillo-built, no manual tranny, giant arcade screen on the dash. I was hoping for an improved version of my 2006 Escape. I'm beginning to believe the original Escape's success and appeal was bolstered with Mazda's heavy collaboration on that design.

The Bronco Sport is designed to take on vehicles like the Jeep Renegade not the Wrangler. If you want a manual transmission and heavy duty off road capabilities you want the full size Bronco.
 

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The Bronco Sport is designed to take on vehicles like the Jeep Renegade not the Wrangler. If you want a manual transmission and heavy duty off road capabilities you want the full size Bronco.
I really wasn't looking for "heavy duty off road capabilities", nor a vehicle like the Renegade, but at least the Renegade did offer a manual transmission until last year. But you're right, despite what Ford declared ("Sport to be tough, rugged"), it looks to be a glorified grocery-getter/mall crawler. Most Renegades I see on the road are female-driven, probably the same market for the Sport, eh?
 

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Hey, thanks for sharing this PDF. It looks like page 10 of 25. Can you share the rest of the document?
 

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If so, I already have an'09 Mariner.
It may have some dirt cred, as the wheelbase is 2 in. shorter which, would theoretically at least, offer better breakover angles. The nose is also more "chin up" than the Escape's for maybe the same reason? Still, nothing on suspension, I probably won't do anything until early 2022, but for now, the Hermosillo-built Sport is off my list.
Those Mariners are tanks; just like the old bodied escape. IMO if you are considering a BS then the 2.0 is the ONLY way to go. I don't think I could settle for the 1.5 regardless of the trim and options; I would probably kept looking at a different vehicle tbh.
But don't get me wrong I'm sure the 1.5 is more than accommodating for a lot of people in the market for a crossover.
 
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