No integrated map or navigation...wtf???

[BadlandsinMI]

So I just found out that my brand new BS Badlands with premium package and basically every option available does NOT have built in navigation/map with the touch screen (because of chip shortgage), and according to my dealer was built in a way that even when they finally have the chips available they can NOT update the system...so my car will never have built in navigation...are you f-ing kidding me???
Apparently when I ordered mine earlier this year, they did not have the chips, and so took the ford co-pilot360 assist off the website as an option, but left the ford co-pilot360 terminology as included in my base build...which I assumed must be the map/navigation. This is unbelievable and as frustrating as could be...and worse yet strikes me as one of the dumbest decisions a car co could make. Fine you have a chip shortage, BUT design and build your touchscreen system in a way that you can add navigation once the chips are available in the future

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[Central Jersey]

So I just found out that my brand new BS Badlands with premium package and basically every option available does NOT have built in navigation/map with the touch screen (because of chip shortgage), and according to my dealer was built in a way that even when they finally have the chips available they can NOT update the system...so my car will never have built in navigation...are you f-ing kidding me???
Apparently when I ordered mine earlier this year, they did not have the chips, and so took the ford co-pilot360 assist off the website as an option, but left the ford co-pilot360 terminology as included in my base build...which I assumed must be the map/navigation. This is unbelievable and as frustrating as could be...and worse yet strikes me as one of the dumbest decisions a car co could make. Fine you have a chip shortage, BUT design and build your touchscreen system in a way that you can add navigation once the chips are available in the future

Don’t accept delivery and order another one with 360+ when 2023 order banks open

 

[Glamdring70]

There's a lot of confusion in that post. Nothing to do with chip shortages beyond the shortages are making it hard to build features at the level of demand. I don't know what anyone told you but the built in nav is part of the 360+ option package. It doesn't matter what other packages you get, the 360+ option is what adds factory navigation. Ford makes it really hard because they call the basic, mandated driver assistance features "360" and call the optional upgrade tech "360+". Their website is awful at laying it all out because the plus features vary from vehicle to vehicle. Here is a basic list
https://www.ford.com/support/how-tos/ford-technology/driver-assist-features/what-is-co-pilot360/

You can't go back and add 360+ to built vehicles. There are bunches of missing hardware.

You're not out that much since you can use a carplay compatible nav system or add a dedicated device. There are a bunch of 360+ features but if the nav is your one big concern, it wasn't worth the price for that option.

 

[AltoAlto]

Fine you have a chip shortage, BUT design and build your touchscreen system in a way that you can add navigation once the chips are available in the future

it would be great if that was possible {cost effective}. It's likely a completely different board used between the two. Shoot nowadays many laptop computers do not even have the ability upgrading RAM/Disks. Everything is soldered to the single board assembly.

 

[Adam CW]

This doesn’t sound right. Are you sure you selected the 360+ package?

The standard 360 package doesn’t include navigation.

 

[bjbena]

So I just found out that my brand new BS Badlands with premium package and basically every option available does NOT have built in navigation/map with the touch screen (because of chip shortgage), and according to my dealer was built in a way that even when they finally have the chips available they can NOT update the system...so my car will never have built in navigation...are you f-ing kidding me???
Apparently when I ordered mine earlier this year, they did not have the chips, and so took the ford co-pilot360 assist off the website as an option, but left the ford co-pilot360 terminology as included in my base build...which I assumed must be the map/navigation. This is unbelievable and as frustrating as could be...and worse yet strikes me as one of the dumbest decisions a car co could make. Fine you have a chip shortage, BUT design and build your touchscreen system in a way that you can add navigation once the chips are available in the future

This doesn’t sound right. Are you sure you selected the 360+ package?

The standard 360 package doesn’t include navigation.

Agreed. Don't get butthurt because you didn't read the options properly. The NAV comes with the CoPliot 360+ package so you could've ordered the Premium package for days but because you didn't read right and didn't order the right package don't spread false information.

You assumed. There was the problem. No the chip shortage.

 

[13MikeH]

Fwiw...Waze.app using carplay or Android auto are better in my opinion anyways

 

[Mark S.]

You likely CAN add navigation after-the-fact, but you won't get any of the other 360+ features. 4DTech.com will sell you an APIM loaded with Nav and the as-built data for your car, but it's not cheap.

 

[BadlandsinMI]

This doesn’t sound right. Are you sure you selected the 360+ package?

The standard 360 package doesn’t include navigation.

My dealership said that when I built the car online the website did not include the 360assist option

Agreed. Don't get butthurt because you didn't read the options properly. The NAV comes with the CoPliot 360+ package so you could've ordered the Premium package for days but because you didn't read right and didn't order the right package don't spread false information.

You assumed. There was the problem. No the chip shortage.

The Co-pilot360 assist+ was not offered on the website when I built my car. My dealership told me that for a certain time earlier in the year it was removed as an option because of the chip shortage.

 

[cgparsons1983]

There's a lot of confusion in that post. Nothing to do with chip shortages beyond the shortages are making it hard to build features at the level of demand. I don't know what anyone told you but the built in nav is part of the 360+ option package. It doesn't matter what other packages you get, the 360+ option is what adds factory navigation. Ford makes it really hard because they call the basic, mandated driver assistance features "360" and call the optional upgrade tech "360+". Their website is awful at laying it all out because the plus features vary from vehicle to vehicle. Here is a basic list
https://www.ford.com/support/how-tos/ford-technology/driver-assist-features/what-is-co-pilot360/

You can't go back and add 360+ to built vehicles. There are bunches of missing hardware.

You're not out that much since you can use a carplay compatible nav system or add a dedicated device. There are a bunch of 360+ features but if the nav is your one big concern, it wasn't worth the price for that option.

I went through the same thing when I got mine. I saw it had 360 listed on the sticker and figured, oh cool I get navigation also. Turns out that's only with 360+, but with a yamaha android auto wireless adapter I don't see any reason why I would need it. There are other 360+ features I wouldn't mind having but the integrated navigation is usually crap. Also with the yamaha adapter (after figuring out my previous phone had issues) the experience has been almost flawless.

 

[bjbena]

My dealership said that when I built the car online the website did not include the 360assist option

The Co-pilot360 assist+ was not offered on the website when I built my car. My dealership told me that for a certain time earlier in the year it was removed as an option because of the chip shortage.

Odd. I don't think it has been documented anywhere that the 360+ package was removed from the website. What has been documented is that it mat cause significant delays to orders including it.

 

[Cactusjk]

I wanted 360+ and was not able to get it. I have found that the apps including Gaia, Google, Apple, and others are actually better. I use a wireless CarPlay adapter and it is seamless.

 

[thekingprawn]

The Co-pilot360 assist+ was not offered on the website when I built my car. My dealership told me that for a certain time earlier in the year it was removed as an option because of the chip shortage.

They lied to you. It was taken away as an option for dealer stock orders. It was reserved only for retail orders.

 

[Folkman]

I wanted 360+ and was not able to get it. I have found that the apps including Gaia, Google, Apple, and others are actually better. I use a wireless CarPlay adapter and it is seamless.

Same. And a wireless charger better than ford’s is 19$.

 

[christopheru]

Reasons to want non-cell phone coverage are simple. No coverage, no nav.

Google nav is ok at best, Apple has lousy maps, and Waze is a joke. I don’t find it particularly helpful at all and while it is cute and cartoony, being dumped in the middle of the street when you approach your destination is less than ideal (unknown to me area and very busy and Waze decided we were there when we weren’t LOL) leaving us to have to pull over, park, and use apple maps.

As far as the rest goes, a Garmin nav system is better than any of the options out there anyways. Doing it again, that is what I would do.

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