Brand new 2024 Bronco Sport Badlands - bucking at low speeds! The whole car shakes. What is happening?

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Brand new 2024 Bronco Sport Badlands - bucking at low speeds. The whole car randomly shakes. Also very slow start in the morning or after parked for a while. Does anyone know what this bucking is?
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Thanks - yes taking it in of course - brand new, a few months old, 4K miles. Otherwise drives great. Yes, seems like long ignition hold, slow, no pick up. Like the old cars that had to warm up in the winter. That type of feel
 

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You should let your car warm up. Especially since it has a turbo. Nothing crazy, but upon "cold start up" or if it's sat for a while parked, you'll notice the revs are higher. This is to get oil pumping where it needs to go. Once the rpm needle drops down to around 100 or so it's the car telling you it's ready to move.

Turbochargers require oil to lubricate bearings of moving internal parts. If you just turn the car on and put it in drive there's potential for those components to not be properly lubricated just yet.

Turbochargers also get really hot from exhaust gasses flowing through them, so an engine cool down is also important. After you park your car let it idle for just 20 30 seconds at least. Some will say 1 minute, but anything is better than nothing. The idea is to let some fresh oil pass through and let the turbo cool a bit so oil doesn't sit and cook and gum up the turbo.

There is much controversy in this matter with modern turbocharged vehicles but I still do this. It just makes sence
 
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You should let your car warm up. Especially since it has a turbo. Nothing crazy, but upon "cold start up" or if it's sat for a while parked, you'll notice the revs are higher. This is to get oil pumping where it needs to go. Once the rpm needle drops down to around 100 or so it's the car telling you it's ready to move.

Turbochargers require oil to lubricate bearings of moving internal parts. If you just turn the car on and put it in drive there's potential for those components to not be properly lubricated just yet.

Turbochargers also get really hot from exhaust gasses flowing through them, so an engine cool down is also important. After you park your car let it idle for just 20 30 seconds at least. Some will say 1 minute, but anything is better than nothing. The idea is to let some fresh oil pass through and let the turbo cool a bit so oil doesn't sit and cook and gum up the turbo.

There is much controversy in this matter with modern turbocharged vehicles but I still do this. It just makes sence
Thanks, appreciate your thoughts on this. I do give it some time but still a little slow. That's not my biggest issue. The "bucking" and shaking out of nowhere is concerning and not my first Bronco with issues. Ford had to repurchase my last big Bronco for many safety issues. My first one was a Sport with various problems. This is #3 and the last, I've spent way too many months of my life at Ford service. I really appreciate your advice, super helpful!
 


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Thanks, appreciate your thoughts on this. I do give it some time but still a little slow. That's not my biggest issue. The "bucking" and shaking out of nowhere is concerning and not my first Bronco with issues. Ford had to repurchase my last big Bronco for many safety issues. My first one was a Sport with various problems. This is #3 and the last, I've spent way too many months of my life at Ford service. I really appreciate your advice, super helpful!
Wow that's really bad luck with these sorry to hear
 

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This is to get oil pumping where it needs to go. Once the rpm needle drops down to around 100 or so it's the car telling you it's ready to move.
Modern engines do not require a significant warm up period. Modern low-viscosity oil distributes throughout the engine much more rapidly than in the past. Within a few seconds of start, even a cold start, all internal engine components are fully bathed in engine oil.The high initial idle doesn't have anything to do with oil distribution, it's about smooth starts and heating up the catalytic converter. First, cold starts require a richer fuel/air mixture--that is the engine requires proportionally more fuel vs air than when the engine is warm. Why? Because fuel doesn't vaporize as well when cold. Back in the day, cars used to have a choke valve; you closed it to reduce the amount of air going through the carburetor. Closing off the air increased the vacuum in the carburetor, which in turn pulled more fuel into the engine. Although the methodology of starting the engine has changed--we use fuel injection rather than a carburetor--the physics remains the same: modern engines also require more fuel at startup. Instead of a choke, the PCM (powertrain control module) injects more fuel than normal. Too much fuel, however, will result in a mixture that's too rich to burn, so the PCM also opens the throttle to get more air in. The increase in fuel and air serves to increase the RPM. As soon as the PCM determines the engine will idle smoothly, however, it reduces the fuel and air entering the engine, thus your idle speed drops. The second thing the higher idle does is to heat up the catalytic converter as rapidly as possible. Catalytic converters do not function until extremely hot, so getting it up to temperature quickly reduces harmful exhaust emissions. The rich mixture on start up increases the temperature of the exhaust gas, which speeds heating of the cat. The rich mixture when cold is also the primary reason your car gets worse fuel mileage when it's cold.

So what should you do? Start your car, adjust your seat and mirrors, put on your seat belt, and put something on the infotainment system. By then the idle has dropped and you can drive on. Take it easy for the first five minutes or so. Why? Different metals expand at different rates when heated, so you should give internal engine components some time to warm up a bit before you do your Mario Andretti impression. Unless it's below 20F, five minutes of easy driving is plenty. After that, drive it normally. If it's below 20F give it a bit more time, say 10 minutes instead of five.

Turbochargers also get really hot from exhaust gasses flowing through them, so an engine cool down is also important. After you park your car let it idle for just 20 30 seconds at least. Some will say 1 minute, but anything is better than nothing. The idea is to let some fresh oil pass through and let the turbo cool a bit so oil doesn't sit and cook and gum up the turbo.
There really isn't any controversy about this. Auto manufacturers USED to include a cooldown recommendation in the owner's manual of turbocharged vehicles when the only thing cooling the turbocharger was engine oil. Modern turbochargers are connected directly to the engine's cooling system, and coolant circulates even after you shut down the engine preventing the bearings from getting hot enough to overheat the oil. That's why manufacturers no longer include a cooldown recommendation for their turbocharged engines.

Is a cooldown ever a good idea? Perhaps. If you've been running your turbocharged engine around a racetrack for several laps it might benefit from a brief cooldown--not just for the turbocharger, but for the entire engine. The coolant, transmission fluid, engine oil, etc. will all be at or near their maximum operating temps, and shutting down the engine at that point could result in localized fluid overheating. Running the engine at idle for a few minutes will keep the fluid circulation pumps going long enough for fluid temps to get back to their normal range.

Under normal, everyday driving, however, none of your engine's fluids will get hot enough to require a cooldown.
 
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Thanks, appreciate your thoughts on this. I do give it some time but still a little slow. That's not my biggest issue. The "bucking" and shaking out of nowhere is concerning and not my first Bronco with issues. Ford had to repurchase my last big Bronco for many safety issues. My first one was a Sport with various problems. This is #3 and the last, I've spent way too many months of my life at Ford service. I really appreciate your advice, super helpful!
What are the RPM’s doing during this bucking process?

Could be an issue with the stability control/ABS or the tranny searching for the proper gear.

Sorry to hear about your issues with your previous Bronco’s. I bought my Sport while waiting (3 years!) for my full size 2 for. I liked the Sport so much I kept it as well. Both have been flawless and never back to the dealer except for routine maintenance.
 

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You should let your car warm up. Especially since it has a turbo. Nothing crazy, but upon "cold start up" or if it's sat for a while parked, you'll notice the revs are higher. This is to get oil pumping where it needs to go. Once the rpm needle drops down to around 100 or so it's the car telling you it's ready to move.

Turbochargers require oil to lubricate bearings of moving internal parts. If you just turn the car on and put it in drive there's potential for those components to not be properly lubricated just yet.

Turbochargers also get really hot from exhaust gasses flowing through them, so an engine cool down is also important. After you park your car let it idle for just 20 30 seconds at least. Some will say 1 minute, but anything is better than nothing. The idea is to let some fresh oil pass through and let the turbo cool a bit so oil doesn't sit and cook and gum up the turbo.

There is much controversy in this matter with modern turbocharged vehicles but I still do this. It just makes sence
If your rpm drops down to 100 or so you better take it in and see what's wrong with it? :confused: I think you meant to say 1,000 rpm?:confused:
 

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Modern engines do not require a significant warm up period. Modern low-viscosity oil distributes.......
......There really isn't any controversy about this....
See what I mean?

Under normal, everyday driving, however, none of your engine's fluids will get hot enough to require a cooldown.
This is true. I practice what I do because I like to keep my focus ST alive. When I cold start it let the rpms drop on idle then start driving. I do keep it easy and it does take about 5-7 minutes on the freeway for engine oil to reach operating temp 180F. Coolant warms up faster but I always wait for oil to be at temp before going WOT.

Driving in the bronco sport isn't the same as the ST at all, but I keep the same practice to be on the safe side. Carburetor or fuel injection engines are still the same.
 


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Mine was bucking too. Ford found a transmission issue. They replaced some parts in the transmission and it’s much better now. Glad it’s under warranty but nervous that I will continue to have issues.
 
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Mine was bucking too. Ford found a transmission issue. They replaced some parts in the transmission and it’s much better now. Glad it’s under warranty but nervous that I will continue to have issues.
Thanks for commenting! When was yours bucking? Mine slow speed usually when I'm slowing down. Trying to track it to give them clues which usually helps with no engine light. Between 15-27 mph. Just bummed that this was the best Bronco yet, super smooth, love the way it handles and now it bucks like the logo...
 

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Same for me. Low speeds. Let me look up the parts for you. I will get back to you soon!
 
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Same for me. Low speeds. Let me look up the parts for you. I will get back to you soon!
Thank you! My experience has been if you can go in and tell them this other owner had the same issue and here's what they found - so this is so helpful!
 

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Described my issue as lurching and they were able to reproduce this in the shop.
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