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My battery in my 2023 Sport Badlands
was replaced yesterday at 14,234 miles.
I’ve had various alert messages show up in the last few months about battery issues. My basic regular maintenance services at the dealers reported my battery normal. Finally at a dealer last week my car went to the department
where they could read the codes and analyze the battery. It failed the tests and was replaced with a new battery,
Why did it take so long ?
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My experience was the same. It took 3 dealer visits to have the battery replaced, last visit I said I don't want the Sport back until it's fixed, it got to the point that it couldn't be trusted.
Ford doesn't want to give out free parts unless it absolutely has to.
 
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The dealer replaces batteries? Mine failed like 3 weeks after a dealer service showed it to be normal. I swapped it myself. It was like 60k miles, though.
 

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The dealer replaces batteries? Mine failed like 3 weeks after a dealer service showed it to be normal. I swapped it myself. It was like 60k miles, though.
They aren’t swapping it at 60k
 

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Battery testers are cheap (around $40) and every car owner should invest in one and use it frequently as preventative maintenance.
 


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Battery testers are cheap (around $40) and every car owner should invest in one and use it frequently as preventative maintenance.
Or maybe one of the pictures below. Around 12.00 dollars.
Ford Bronco Sport Battery Replaced IMG_1875
 

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Or maybe one of the pictures below. Around 12.00 dollars.
Ford Bronco Sport Battery Replaced IMG_1875
Voltage can be a warning sign, but it's not a guarantee. I use a similar display (but with a splitter to three ports) in my BS BL to keep an eye on the voltage, but I also have a separate bluetooth battery tester (tiny and less than $20 shipped on Aliexpress.

A battery tester will also tell you if the battery is not meeting its rated cold cranking amps, instead of just the voltage. That's a health indicator that can lead you to replace the battery before extremely hot/cold weather causes extreme start hesitation or, in the worst case, a vehicle that won't start.
 

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'22 Badlands. My battery just failed at 2yrs7mos w 22K miles. No warnings whatsoever. One morning I looked at my App to check tire pressures, and the App indicated my Sport was in the battery power saving mode and I checked >> starter wouldn't even engage. I put the battery on a charger overnight, but it was still a to go. Ford Roadside Assistance came by my house and got me started using a Jump Starter. I drove to Chapman Fords' Express Service shop, & got a new battery, w/o any questions/arguments at all.

TAKEAWAY: These batteries have a history of problems. If you drive any further off-road than a grocery store parking lot: buy a Jump Starter, especially if you may be going into a cell phone dead zone. And, REMEMBER if you have a battery problem, turn OFF your Auto Stop/Start function.

I now have a Jump Starter in both of my vehicles. Hopefully I'll never need to find out if they actually work! HaHa. In my Sport I put device in the rear under seat storage compartment, although I had to pull out the vinyl liner to give me a little more wiggle room.

https://www.amazon.com/TREKURE-Starter-Charging-Portable-Extended/dp/B0D8Q62Q4S
 

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.. buy a Jump Starter … in my Sport I put device in the rear under seat storage compartment
The TREKURE Lithium jump starter 6000A looks nice and at $90 with 30% off coupon the price is good. You may want to check its storage temp spec (I couldn’t find it on Amazon, is that spec in the product manual?)… just an FYI, Phoenix area temp inside the vehicle can reach >140°F for an extended number of hours and that temp can exceed the Lithium Polymer battery storage max temp.
 

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Dude ... Thanks for query on the TEKURE jump starter storage temps. According to the owners' manual >>> TEKURE storage temp is up to 122F, but can be used up to 140F (yes, I wrote these temps in the correct order). Based on your comment, during the summer I'll only store this jump starter in my Sport during when I'm driving cross-country, or going off-road.

Not just jump starters, but I wonder how many folks carry Power Banks in their vehicles without giving it a second thought. Granted, there's probably an industry safety factor "guideline" already taken off a demonstrated failure temperature ... buuuut....
 


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My battery in my 2023 Sport Badlands
was replaced yesterday at 14,234 miles.
I’ve had various alert messages show up in the last few months about battery issues. My basic regular maintenance services at the dealers reported my battery normal. Finally at a dealer last week my car went to the department
where they could read the codes and analyze the battery.
It failed the tests and was replaced with a new battery,
Why did it take so long ?
There is no separate battery analyzing dept. Any tech can test the battery. It seems that either they did not actually test the battery during the regular maintenance services, or they did and lied about it's condition.

To be fair, it's possible that the battery did test OK the first few times, but it seems unlikely since you had been seeing alert messages.
 

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Dude ... Thanks for query on the TEKURE jump starter storage temps. According to the owners' manual >>> TEKURE storage temp is up to 122F, but can be used up to 140F (yes, I wrote these temps in the correct order). Based on your comment, during the summer I'll only store this jump starter in my Sport during when I'm driving cross-country, or going off-road.

Not just jump starters, but I wonder how many folks carry Power Banks in their vehicles without giving it a second thought. Granted, there's probably an industry safety factor "guideline" already taken off a demonstrated failure temperature ... buuuut....
You are correct about the Power Banks … I do not keep any lithium battery products in my vehicle during the summer months which now seems to be over 4 months of the year.

Thanks for posting the specs on the TEKURE jump starter storage temps.
 

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Since battery testers were mentioned...

The market is flooded with cheap Chinese battery testers. I'm not aware of any objective reviews of these testers, but judging from the comments online, they are often unreliable, inaccurate, and/or inconsistent.

Another reason their quality is suspect, is that good quality, accurate testers sell for hundreds, or even thousands, of dollars.

The least expensive tester I've seen that gets decent reviews is a Midtronics model. IIRC, it sells for ~$400, maybe more (they make several models).

That being the case, it's highly unlikely that a $20-$30 Chinese tester can be trusted. A false negative may result in money and time wasted replacing a good battery. A false positive may mean getting stranded in Northern Minnesota and not found until spring. :cool:

Sometimes people are led to believe that a meter or tester is accurate because it has a digital display that goes out to several decimal places. While that is precise, there is no guarantee that it is accurate.

Unless a person is a shop owner, or has disposable income to spend on an expensive battery tester that will only be used infrequently, a load tester is a better choice.

Here's a good Garage Journal thread:
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/threads/please-educate-me-on-car-battery-testing.504845/

Midtronics:
https://www.midtronics.com/blog/which-battery-test-technology-is-right-for-you/

Here is an interesting article:
https://batteryuniversity.com/article/why-do-different-test-methods-provide-dissimilar-readings

That BU article seems to be pushing this tester, but there is no affiliate link. There is some good info under "description" (no pricing though):
https://www.cadex.com/products/spectro_rapid_tester

https://marinehowto.com/are-battery-conductance-testers-worth-it/
"The slew of Chinese testers out there are pure unadulterated crap. We have now tested about 8 different Chinese testers and not a single one comes anywhere close to the Midtronics. The Harbor Freight / Centech is not worth the cardboard box it ships in. Garbage data is garbage data."
 

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Jump starters are similar to the cheap Chinese battery testers, in that they get a lot of negative reviews.

The is also little objective testing. Car & Driver (C&D) has published at least one review of jump starters that seemed OK. They do have affiliate links for all of the products, but they are clear about that, and pinky swear that they are unbiased. That may be because they should not care too much which jump starter readers buy.

Here are the top 4 in CR's ratings:

Ford Bronco Sport Battery Replaced 1732063242382-nm


Keep an eye on the operating temp range.
 

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Since battery testers were mentioned...

The market is flooded with cheap Chinese battery testers. I'm not aware of any objective reviews of these testers, but judging from the comments online, they are often unreliable, inaccurate, and/or inconsistent.

Another reason their quality is suspect, is that good quality, accurate testers sell for hundreds, or even thousands, of dollars.

The least expensive tester I've seen that gets decent reviews is a Midtronics model. IIRC, it sells for ~$400, maybe more (they make several models).

That being the case, it's highly unlikely that a $20-$30 Chinese tester can be trusted. A false negative may result in money and time wasted replacing a good battery. A false positive may mean getting stranded in Northern Minnesota and not found until spring. :cool:

Sometimes people are led to believe that a meter or tester is accurate because it has a digital display that goes out to several decimal places. While that is precise, there is no guarantee that it is accurate.

Unless a person is a shop owner, or has disposable income to spend on an expensive battery tester that will only be used infrequently, a load tester is a better choice.

Here's a good Garage Journal thread:
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/threads/please-educate-me-on-car-battery-testing.504845/

Midtronics:
https://www.midtronics.com/blog/which-battery-test-technology-is-right-for-you/

Here is an interesting article:
https://batteryuniversity.com/article/why-do-different-test-methods-provide-dissimilar-readings

That BU article seems to be pushing this tester, but there is no affiliate link. There is some good info under "description" (no pricing though):
https://www.cadex.com/products/spectro_rapid_tester

https://marinehowto.com/are-battery-conductance-testers-worth-it/
"The slew of Chinese testers out there are pure unadulterated crap. We have now tested about 8 different Chinese testers and not a single one comes anywhere close to the Midtronics. The Harbor Freight / Centech is not worth the cardboard box it ships in. Garbage data is garbage data."
Try one first. I have used mine on the four cars we own, aircraft batteries, and an off-grid 400 watt solar system for about five years. If the tester shows that the battery is dead or defective, the load tester will tell you the same thing. Sometimes the load tester will tell you that the battery is good and the cheap tester will advise you to replace it. My experience is that you should believe your cheap tester and not the load tester.
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