Brand new 2024 Bronco Sport Badlands - bucking at low speeds! The whole car shakes.Why? It's the transmission!

[JennyS]

Please read my post above commenting on Dukacola's previous post and post #52. Does my posts describe the condition you are having or is your surging issue different?

The bucking is at slow speeds, let's say you're going 30 or less and take your foot off the gas to turn into a parking lot or something similar, the car bucks. Nothing to do with temperature of the car or outside. In my case, the best way to replicate it is take your foot off of the gas, while going slow. They replaced the transmission and Ford sent a bad one, it's worse with this one. Constant bucking. The Sport Badlands apparently has Edge components so this would make sense. The transmission never fails but feels like it will. Ford needs to buyback all of these cars, it's a major safety issue

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[DWG]

So if I understand what you are saying the bucking is at low speeds but not similar to my issue in that the Bronco Sport can be at operating temperature and the issue will happen still happen. Do you know if Ford replaced the transmission with a brand new transmission or rebuilt? Did Ford also replace the torque converter? I guess it is possible that the issue is not the transmission in the sense that it is not a bad part per say but is more of a design flaw that Ford cannot fix.

I understand your frustration especially since this Bronco Sport is the result of Ford buying back your Bronco. In another recent thread I express my doubts about the quality of recently built Fords cars. Maybe all manufacturers are in the same boat with cheaply made parts or software that has issues in the real world. IDK. I too purchased my Bronco Sport after having Ford buy back a different Ford model that had safety drivability issues.

 

[BLUEOVALRACER]

The bucking is at slow speeds, let's say you're going 30 or less and take your foot off the gas to turn into a parking lot or something similar, the car bucks. Nothing to do with temperature of the car or outside. In my case, the best way to replicate it is take your foot off of the gas, while going slow. They replaced the transmission and Ford sent a bad one, it's worse with this one. Constant bucking. The Sport Badlands apparently has Edge components so this would make sense. The transmission never fails but feels like it will. Ford needs to buyback all of these cars, it's a major safety issue

How many miles is on it and have the Spark Plugs been changed? Could also be a COP going bad.

 

[JennyS]

How many miles is on it and have the Spark Plugs been changed? Could also be a COP going bad.

Started at 4K miles. Now has 10K. Just had its first oil change.

 

[JennyS]

So if I understand what you are saying the bucking is at low speeds but not similar to my issue in that the Bronco Sport can be at operating temperature and the issue will happen still happen. Do you know if Ford replaced the transmission with a brand new transmission or rebuilt? Did Ford also replace the torque converter? I guess it is possible that the issue is not the transmission in the sense that it is not a bad part per say but is more of a design flaw that Ford cannot fix.

I understand your frustration especially since this Bronco Sport is the result of Ford buying back your Bronco. In another recent thread I express my doubts about the quality of recently built Fords cars. Maybe all manufacturers are in the same boat with cheaply made parts or software that has issues in the real world. IDK. I too purchased my Bronco Sport after having Ford buy back a different Ford model that had safety drivability issues.

I agree about the design flaw that they can't fix. That's what happened with my Bronco. They replaced almost everything and the car kept stalling....in intersections. Brand new, 1K miles.

For this Sport, we all assume they sent a new transmission. It's a new car. Who knows. No one in service is surprised, all of these cars have issues (and yes I think all manufacturers) and they've told me Ford rushed out these vehicles because of demand. The fact that they are all chips is a problem too. It's seems that cars pre-covid are way more reliable overall. It's now 4 years later for these Broncos and they can't get their shit together. I don't even care anymore, they have to buy this one back too. Two bad transmissions in a month and third going in next week.

This Ford is my third in 3 years and my last. My first one was a 2021 Sport when they first came out. Also had random crazy, but I got 30K miles out of it. Rear differential issues, noisy loud brakes they couldn't figure out how to fix. I came from the Audi & BMW world...I guess I'm going back!

 

[Dude]

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[JennyS]

California lawmakers scramble to fix ‘lemon’ vehicle law — again
FEBRUARY 20, 2025UPDATED MAY 23, 2025

California lawmakers are rushing to fix last year’s controversial changes to the state’s lemon law, which critics say weakened protections for car buyers

Just four companies are responsible for more than 70% of California’s lemon law cases: GM, Stellantis (formerly Fiat Chrysler), Nissan and Ford.

https://calmatters.org/politics/2025/02/california-car-warranty-claims-consumer-rights/

And:
While it's true that California has a strong consumer protection law known as the "Lemon Law," and sees a high number of cases, it's not accurate to say it's the state with the most lemon law cases filed. In recent years, the number of lemon law cases filed in California has significantly increased, reaching over 25,000 in 2024, placing a strain on the court system. However, other states like New York also see a high volume of lemon law claims.

Here's a more detailed look:
California's Lemon Law:
California's Lemon Law, the Song-Beverly Consumer Warranty Act, is known for being consumer-friendly.

High Volume of Cases:
The number of lemon law cases filed in California has been on the rise, with over 25,000 cases file

When it comes to safety issues - you always request the buyback!

 

[JennyS]

So if I understand what you are saying the bucking is at low speeds but not similar to my issue in that the Bronco Sport can be at operating temperature and the issue will happen still happen. Do you know if Ford replaced the transmission with a brand new transmission or rebuilt? Did Ford also replace the torque converter? I guess it is possible that the issue is not the transmission in the sense that it is not a bad part per say but is more of a design flaw that Ford cannot fix.

I understand your frustration especially since this Bronco Sport is the result of Ford buying back your Bronco. In another recent thread I express my doubts about the quality of recently built Fords cars. Maybe all manufacturers are in the same boat with cheaply made parts or software that has issues in the real world. IDK. I too purchased my Bronco Sport after having Ford buy back a different Ford model that had safety drivability issues.

Ford is requiring this vehicle. That was a fast decision, I guess two in a row isn't a good look

 

[JennyS]

I think you are on the right track with your comments. Regarding your comment about the trans reaching a certain temperature, the 8f35 actually has an internal heater built in. Please read my Post #52 where I describe what I have been experiencing to different degrees in 3 different Fords so far. 2020 Ford Escape, 2019 Ford Edge and my 2024 Ford Bronco Sport. All have the 2.0L engine with the 8F35 transmission. The surging/bucking is intermittent and mostly only happens while I am driving the vehicle after sitting over night. My BS is actually at the dealer right now for other issues and I asked them to check the surging/bucking if nothing else but to document to Ford the issue but they can not duplicate it I suspect because it only happens sometimes and they have to get out of the parking lot where they will be going too slow to recreate the surge/bucking. In my cases the issue mostly happens in warmer outside temperatures.

If you look at the 2019 Ford Edge thread I bookmarked you will see that replacing the torque converter and/or the transmission did not resolve the issue. I had my torque converter replaced on the Edge because of shuttering while at highway speeds. It did not fix th slow speed surging/bucking. I think some on the Edge site are looking to start a class action lawsuit. My Edge is 6 years old and so far even though the surging/bucking happens intermittently, the transmission has not failed. Being that it has been happening to my last 3 fords with the same transmission at this point I chalk the issue up to a quirk in the transmission that Ford does not know how to fix. Wouldn't be the first time Fords and I am sure other manufacturers have had some issue that they really couldn't fix because there is a design flaw or something does not operate as intended once out in the real world and sometimes it is something that Ford can't fix so the consumers options are limited to living with the issue or trading the car in which is not always an option.

My badlands is being repurchased by Ford. What I've learned in this being the second buyback is that they know the issues these cars are having. They are fully aware that two bad transmissions is indicative of a systemic issue. Instead of working harder to fix those issues, they keep selling these cars. My 2 cents for whoever is reading. Always put in the for the buyback. Safety is the most important and even if your state isn't the best with lemon laws, Ford makes the determination in the end and they are the only ones who know how bad it is and what their liability is .

 

[DWG]

Ford is requiring this vehicle. That was a fast decision, I guess two in a row isn't a good look

That's great news that Ford made the decision to buy back your vehicle so quickly. With 2 bad transmissions I am not surprised.

 

[BLUEOVALRACER]

My badlands is being repurchased by Ford. What I've learned in this being the second buyback is that they know the issues these cars are having. They are fully aware that two bad transmissions is indicative of a systemic issue. Instead of working harder to fix those issues, they keep selling these cars. My 2 cents for whoever is reading. Always put in the for the buyback. Safety is the most important and even if your state isn't the best with lemon laws, Ford makes the determination in the end and they are the only ones who know how bad it is and what their liability is .

All companies have problems a guy on here bought a 2025 Hyundai Santa Fe i told him Car & Driver didn't care for the transmission in the one they tested. The guys transmission on his Santa Fe went out at 5,000 miles.

 

[JennyS]

All companies have problems a guy on here bought a 2025 Hyundai Santa Fe i told him Car & Driver didn't care for the transmission in the one they tested. The guys transmission on his Santa Fe went out at 5,000 miles.

Like Hyundai guy, I got a third Bronco. My first one had issues too. Third one wasn't a charm. Yes, it's all cars. They were different pre-covid. Before they were all chips. Before they rushed all those chips out. When mechanics could look under the hood and see what's wrong. Now, the best they can do is wait for an engine light or a failure registering in their system. Other than that, it's a mystery that can happen to anyone. A lot of electric cars have display failure issues. The freakin display, not like you need that in an EV

 

[JennyS]

That's great news that Ford made the decision to buy back your vehicle so quickly. With 2 bad transmissions I am not surprised.

Thanks - it look 2 days for a decision. Last time it took 50 days. A third transmission is going in tomorrow!

 

[thegadgetfish]

My badlands is being repurchased by Ford. What I've learned in this being the second buyback is that they know the issues these cars are having. They are fully aware that two bad transmissions is indicative of a systemic issue. Instead of working harder to fix those issues, they keep selling these cars. My 2 cents for whoever is reading. Always put in the for the buyback. Safety is the most important and even if your state isn't the best with lemon laws, Ford makes the determination in the end and they are the only ones who know how bad it is and what their liability is .

I’m glad they’re buying it back so quickly. Hopefully your next car will be problem free for the next 100k+ miles. New cars are so fun but issues at such low mileage really leave a bad taste. I don’t think i’ll buy another Ford again either, but their design really inspired other automakers. There’s way more boxy, rugged alternatives compared to 4 years ago.

I agree these new cars are way too complicated and more prone to failure, and yet at the same time I love my 360 degree cameras and ventilated seats and heated steering wheel!

 

[jkernitzki]

Before they were all chips. Before they rushed all those chips out. When mechanics could look under the hood and see what's wrong.

So, the ‘60’s, then.

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